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	<title>Comments on: Men At Work Signs Unfair To Womyn</title>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/07/10/men-at-work-signs-unfair-to-womyn/comment-page-1/#comment-7901</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you loudly denounce everyone who disagrees with you as a Nazi, what are you going to say when an actual Nazi comes along? Once people figure out that your screaming complaints about oppression and tyranny are whining about trivialities, maybe they will learn to dismiss you. Then when a true threat comes along, it may be hard to get anyone to pay attention.

I&#039;m thinking of writing a fiction story about this, maybe an allegory about a boy who keeps warning about imaginary wolves ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you loudly denounce everyone who disagrees with you as a Nazi, what are you going to say when an actual Nazi comes along? Once people figure out that your screaming complaints about oppression and tyranny are whining about trivialities, maybe they will learn to dismiss you. Then when a true threat comes along, it may be hard to get anyone to pay attention.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of writing a fiction story about this, maybe an allegory about a boy who keeps warning about imaginary wolves &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jvette</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/07/10/men-at-work-signs-unfair-to-womyn/comment-page-1/#comment-7900</link>
		<dc:creator>Jvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Clouthier, Yes, I am saying that, but I&#039;m also saying that this kind of petty whining and intentional searching out of things to protest, trivializes the very real oppression of women throughout the world. Does this woman honestly think that when I&#039;m driving down the street and see one of these signs, I think to myself, &quot;Gee, women work at these sites too, why doesn&#039;t that sign reflect that? Women are still underrepresented in our country.&quot;  Instead....

What I thought when I saw this woman was a small minded, hyper sensitive bitch with nothing better to do that whine about the generic use of the word &quot;man&quot; on a sign. What I saw was a woman who brings ridicule to women instead of attention to the real abuse, violence and oppression of women and girls that is still in practice.

I was a teenager in the seventies, I have reaped the benefit of the real struggle of women to gain economic, professional and domestic opportunities and respect. I am grateful for the progress in this country and throughout the modern world. This woman makes me angry. Pure and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Clouthier, Yes, I am saying that, but I&#8217;m also saying that this kind of petty whining and intentional searching out of things to protest, trivializes the very real oppression of women throughout the world. Does this woman honestly think that when I&#8217;m driving down the street and see one of these signs, I think to myself, &#8220;Gee, women work at these sites too, why doesn&#8217;t that sign reflect that? Women are still underrepresented in our country.&#8221;  Instead&#8230;.</p>
<p>What I thought when I saw this woman was a small minded, hyper sensitive bitch with nothing better to do that whine about the generic use of the word &#8220;man&#8221; on a sign. What I saw was a woman who brings ridicule to women instead of attention to the real abuse, violence and oppression of women and girls that is still in practice.</p>
<p>I was a teenager in the seventies, I have reaped the benefit of the real struggle of women to gain economic, professional and domestic opportunities and respect. I am grateful for the progress in this country and throughout the modern world. This woman makes me angry. Pure and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hoyt</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/07/10/men-at-work-signs-unfair-to-womyn/comment-page-1/#comment-7895</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hoyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are you saying American culture is better than Islamic culture?&quot;  If Jvette isn&#039;t, I am.  Been reading, and highly recommend Carmen Bin Ladin&#039;s &quot;Inside the Kingdom - My Life in Saudi Arabia&quot;.

Every Feminazi twit ought to have to go live in Saudi for a couple of years to find out what REAL oppression is.  Those poor women can hardly pass gas without seeking a man&#039;s permission.  They are virtual prisoners in their own homes.

In that &quot;culture&quot;, women exist solely for the pleasure and convenience of men.  Boys are taught that they are superior from the time they are very small.  This is the social structure that provides the world with the charming concept of honor killings.  You know how it works - you&#039;re a man, and your daughter/sister/mother commits a heinous act, like talking to a man to whom she isn&#039;t married, and you either kill her or pay someone else to do it.  

Islamoradicalism must not be allowed to do to the U.S. what it has done to Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are you saying American culture is better than Islamic culture?&#8221;  If Jvette isn&#8217;t, I am.  Been reading, and highly recommend Carmen Bin Ladin&#8217;s &#8220;Inside the Kingdom &#8211; My Life in Saudi Arabia&#8221;.</p>
<p>Every Feminazi twit ought to have to go live in Saudi for a couple of years to find out what REAL oppression is.  Those poor women can hardly pass gas without seeking a man&#8217;s permission.  They are virtual prisoners in their own homes.</p>
<p>In that &#8220;culture&#8221;, women exist solely for the pleasure and convenience of men.  Boys are taught that they are superior from the time they are very small.  This is the social structure that provides the world with the charming concept of honor killings.  You know how it works &#8211; you&#8217;re a man, and your daughter/sister/mother commits a heinous act, like talking to a man to whom she isn&#8217;t married, and you either kill her or pay someone else to do it.  </p>
<p>Islamoradicalism must not be allowed to do to the U.S. what it has done to Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Melissa Clouthier</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/07/10/men-at-work-signs-unfair-to-womyn/comment-page-1/#comment-7894</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Melissa Clouthier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jvette,

Come on now! You just know that Men at Work signs are high on the list. Who cares about silly things like genital mutilation--that&#039;s just a cultural phenomenon. Are you saying American culture is better than Islamic culture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jvette,</p>
<p>Come on now! You just know that Men at Work signs are high on the list. Who cares about silly things like genital mutilation&#8211;that&#8217;s just a cultural phenomenon. Are you saying American culture is better than Islamic culture?</p>
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		<title>By: Jvette</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/07/10/men-at-work-signs-unfair-to-womyn/comment-page-1/#comment-7890</link>
		<dc:creator>Jvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw this woman on O&#039;Reilly last night with Laura Ingraham and couldn&#039;t believe how serious she thinks this &quot;problem&quot; is for women&#039;s equality. Really and truly pathetic. With all the true oppression and abuse of women in this world, this is what this mean spirited and shallow woman chooses to rail against. 

Let&#039;s see, women forced into marriage, killed for behavior deemed a dishonor their families, sexual slavery, female mutilations, abortion of girl babies in favor of boys, denial of education, jobs....well I guess I could almost go on and on. Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw this woman on O&#8217;Reilly last night with Laura Ingraham and couldn&#8217;t believe how serious she thinks this &#8220;problem&#8221; is for women&#8217;s equality. Really and truly pathetic. With all the true oppression and abuse of women in this world, this is what this mean spirited and shallow woman chooses to rail against. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, women forced into marriage, killed for behavior deemed a dishonor their families, sexual slavery, female mutilations, abortion of girl babies in favor of boys, denial of education, jobs&#8230;.well I guess I could almost go on and on. Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Meaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Meaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was shocked when, while working for a truck company we discussed the ability to start one truck using the power from another. For 80 years this was called a &quot;slave&quot; start.

And someone who had never been a slave, took offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was shocked when, while working for a truck company we discussed the ability to start one truck using the power from another. For 80 years this was called a &#8220;slave&#8221; start.</p>
<p>And someone who had never been a slave, took offense.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Wallis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Wallis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please be so kind as to inform me if this also means that, with such enlightened signs, one can reasonably expect &quot;WARNING: female butt crack over the next 300 feet.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please be so kind as to inform me if this also means that, with such enlightened signs, one can reasonably expect &#8220;WARNING: female butt crack over the next 300 feet.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hog Whitman</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/07/10/men-at-work-signs-unfair-to-womyn/comment-page-1/#comment-7880</link>
		<dc:creator>Hog Whitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Berzerkely City Council spent untold $ to remove any reference to &quot;manhole covers&quot; in all city documents and replace them with &quot;personhole covers&quot;. Maybe I&#039;m just wierd but &quot;personhole&quot; sounds kinda dirty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Berzerkely City Council spent untold $ to remove any reference to &#8220;manhole covers&#8221; in all city documents and replace them with &#8220;personhole covers&#8221;. Maybe I&#8217;m just wierd but &#8220;personhole&#8221; sounds kinda dirty.</p>
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		<title>By: WayneB</title>
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		<dc:creator>WayneB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, come on, at least tell your girlfriend to get the saying right. It goes:

&quot;A man may work from sun to sun, but a woman&#039;s work is never done.&quot;

It at least rhymes that way, heh.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;“Men at Work” signifies the universal “man” and does not signify gender, to me.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Well, that&#039;s what it has meant for a long darned time, even though it IS a weird convention in English, using male pronouns when the sex of the subject is undetermined. I just wish they wouldn&#039;t go changing the language unilaterally and basically unannounced, such as replacing male pronouns with female ones in just about every publication coming out today. For someone who grew up with the old convention, seeing &quot;she&quot; and &quot;her&quot; used for indeterminate gender has the grating sense of specificity and exclusion (which I suppose the perpetually outraged feminists decided was the case with using male pronouns, but that seems to be a deliberate ignoring of convention).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, come on, at least tell your girlfriend to get the saying right. It goes:</p>
<p>&#8220;A man may work from sun to sun, but a woman&#8217;s work is never done.&#8221;</p>
<p>It at least rhymes that way, heh.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;“Men at Work” signifies the universal “man” and does not signify gender, to me.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s what it has meant for a long darned time, even though it IS a weird convention in English, using male pronouns when the sex of the subject is undetermined. I just wish they wouldn&#8217;t go changing the language unilaterally and basically unannounced, such as replacing male pronouns with female ones in just about every publication coming out today. For someone who grew up with the old convention, seeing &#8220;she&#8221; and &#8220;her&#8221; used for indeterminate gender has the grating sense of specificity and exclusion (which I suppose the perpetually outraged feminists decided was the case with using male pronouns, but that seems to be a deliberate ignoring of convention).</p>
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		<title>By: tomw</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the signs are misleading.  There are no &#039;workers&#039; ahead, only people propping up shovels.  

 Some people are more equal than others, and they have no problem telling you about it.  What a waste of time and money.  If the workers are equal in performance and value, replace the signs over time as they wear out, instead of kow-towing to those that will blame everyone but themself for their unhappiness.  It is always &#039;someone else who is being offensive to me&#039; in their minds.  Too bad they cannot escape to reality.  No one with a full head can understand why this dreck is so important to their well being.
 Sorry for the blast, but why not help people be productive and constructive rather than whine about trivia? 
tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the signs are misleading.  There are no &#8216;workers&#8217; ahead, only people propping up shovels.  </p>
<p> Some people are more equal than others, and they have no problem telling you about it.  What a waste of time and money.  If the workers are equal in performance and value, replace the signs over time as they wear out, instead of kow-towing to those that will blame everyone but themself for their unhappiness.  It is always &#8216;someone else who is being offensive to me&#8217; in their minds.  Too bad they cannot escape to reality.  No one with a full head can understand why this dreck is so important to their well being.<br />
 Sorry for the blast, but why not help people be productive and constructive rather than whine about trivia?<br />
tom</p>
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