Comments on: Barack Obama Is A Socialist If……..–UPDATED

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By: Robert Arvanitis

Robert Arvanitis — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:48:43 +0000

Mr. Thompson:
I invite you, sincerely, to start with the basic premises for justice and fairness.

I begin with Nozick’s idea:

“Nozick’s Anarchy, State, and Utopia (1974), which received a National Book Award, argues among other things that a distribution of goods is just if brought about by free exchange among consenting adults and from a just starting position, even if large inequalities subsequently emerge from the process.”

If you want to manipulate the results to suit your own pre-conceptions, then you are a socialist.

By: Mark Thompson

Mark Thompson — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:54:02 +0000

and that “spread the wealth” comment, taken a little out of context. Just a pinch. Noones money is going directly to anyone else, as Molly Ivins said, republicans biggest fear that someone somewhere is getting something for free. Amazing, they complain about the bad schools, and want police protection and firemen,and good roads etc; but we can’t be expected to pay for it. That’s fascist. Did you know that the top 50 percent pays like 70 percent of the taxes in this country? Sure they make over 60 percent of the profit in this country, and the entire group of taxpayers over 1 million dollars to 1 billion dollars is one constituency in tax polls, but they sure pay an unfair amount, because 50k to a person making a million is just as unfair as 10 thousand to a person making that same 50k over an entire year. and fairness matters, at least when repugs are being treated unfairly.

By: Mark Thompson

Mark Thompson — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:49:04 +0000

Mr. Chuckles, and others on here may well give up. I don’t know how this “Dr” Melissa became an expert on socialism, but if she or any other person calling Obama a socialist actually talked to someone who truly knew what socialism is, what it means, and not just the wiki of it, they would find that Obama is definitely NOT socialist. And also ask yourself, why is socialism even suggested to be the evil that repugs think it is? Because it’s truly a threat? no. because they are so vested in the model of reaganomics which has empirically been proven to show that the top class makes 400 percent more while lower classes make about 2 percent more.

But hey, that’s as american as apple pie and boring baseball games. and to suggest otherwise would be you would have to be dumb, unamerican and say….oh ….socialist..

By: Robert Arvanitis

Robert Arvanitis — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:28:24 +0000

Mr. Chuckles may feel repetition of falsehoods will change them to truth, but it is not so.

The Democrats first created, and then protected, the public trough of subprime mortgages. That is the start and blame point for the current contretemps.

As a separate matter, I’d be glad to explain the flaws in federal regulation. In short, we have too many moving parts, so no bureaucrat is ever forced to accept blame. That’s how big government insulates itself.

By: Mr. Chuckles

Mr. Chuckles — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:06:31 +0000

Robert,

The fed moved to further deregulate the banking industry, Fannie and Freddy in particular, in 2002. Thier liquidity ratios were loosened to allow a 30 to 1 ratio for loans versus the 10 to 1 prior. Keep in mind that these two institutions are responsible for backing 50% of the mortgages in this country. As I recall, in 2002 both houses and of course the monarchy..ehemmm…presidency, were REPUBLICAN. And Daniel, while I can’t speak for Glynn, citing Bush IS relevant since McCain not only has backed Bush the last eight years, but moreover he is one of the architects of the deregulation that led to this mess. This of course is not McCains first brush with disaster in the mortgage industry. How about the Keating five issue – sure, McCain was acquitted, you know, just like O.J…… If you remember, that one was a gov’t bailout as well (it’s called Resolution Trust – look it up. More “socialism”).

By: Robert Arvanitis

Robert Arvanitis — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:42:44 +0000

Melissa: You’re way ahead of my comment on Twitter.

Daniel: On Harvard math, there’s an old joke in Cambridge MA. At the grocery, student gets on the Express line with too many items. “Either at MIT and can’t read, or Harvard and can’t count…”

Finally, dear Glynn: The government acts you decry are actually to FIX problems CAUSED by socialists in government.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:18:17 +0000

I really don’t understand how one can give a tax cut to 95% of the people, when just barely over 50% pay any taxes at all. Must be that Harvard math…

And Glynn – Obama is running against McCain, not Bush. Don’t you think that if a politician’s approval rating is in the 20′s, but you have to have 50% to get elected, that a lot of people who voted for him are disappointed with his performance in office?

By: Glynn W.

Glynn W. — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:08:13 +0000

You might be a Socialist if you . . nationalize the banks al la Fidel Castro. Oh wait, that’s GEORGE BUSH not Barack Obama . . .

You might be a Socialist if you . . . call for the Federal Government to buy everybody’s house – oh wait, that’s JOHN MCCAIN, not Barack Obama. . .

You might be a Socialist if you call for taxation of profits earned in the US and moved offshore because . . . it’s a really good idea and rabid Bushies have nothing else better to do than call you Socialist. . . .

“Barack Obama – Socialist because we can’t think of anything else to call him.”