This site is a hoot. You guys couldn’t beat a rug this year with a nuclear powered rug beating machine that was designed by a crack team of rug beating specialists! Now you might manage to STEAL another election with all of those “miscalibrated” touch screen voting machines but to think you can win with Father Time/Baby New Year 08?!?

Seriously, you guys are TOO much! Bush has murdered the Republican brand and the only people left who don’t get that it’s over are a cowardly bunch of xenophobic fundagelical nutbags. Have fun shaking your fist at the sun and cursing the light for the next four years.

Your link for “evidence” took me to a Faux News website, which used a quote from Sen. Rick Sanitorium. Oh well, I guess I shouldn’t be suprised…

Well, what a loss for the Marines. Guess there was nothing you could do, right?

You missed the point anyway. I am not anti-war, pro terrorist, pro abortion or any of that other red herring crap you just spewed. It’s just that I (and MANY others) believe the real long term threat is going to come from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Iraq at this point is a distraction from a very real threat, far greater than Saddam ever posed prior to our invasion. Saddam was effectively contained. Again, the jihadists are now in Iraq (a few anyway) POST 9-11. There are FAR more of these guys in Afghanistan, and they are self funding through the heroin trade (which has actually increased since our occupation – go figure…). This trade brings them millions of dollars to purchase weapons, recruit and buy out sympathy from Pakistanis. We can’t control the heroin production because as I said earlier, THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH TROOPS ON THE GROUND. Maybe now you will have heard me. Saddam is gone, and it’s time to focus on what we should have been doing all along, which should have been containing al queda in Afghanistan.

BTW – using your own justification for going into Iraq, you must be aware that there have been numerous murderous regimes that we have all but ingnored (Pol Pot, Amin, Pinochet, Kim Jung Il, ad naseum…). Are we now going to go after all of them as well or just the ones that have resources that we want. Yes, I believe that oil was a factor in going into Iraq. Oil has become a major factor since the rise of industrial power in China and India. You are a fool if you think it didn’t play into the decision to go into Iraq. Plenty of other countries abuse their citizens and still pose a far greater threat to US security than Iraq ever did, but we leave them alone (and hypocritically let their citizens suffer).

So do me a favor: I’ll spare you the chickenhawk label if you spare me the hypocritical “we did it for the poor suffering Iraqis” BS.

So you can leave the lame “chickenhawk” ad hominem attack alone, mmmKay?

War is always a tragedy. No one for the War in Iraq is “for war”, we just want the military to fight the Jihadis on their land and not on ours.

Kind of like you lefties say “well, no one is really FOR abortion*, they just want the choice”.

* not counting NOW, Planned Paranthood, NARAL, and anyone bitching that Sarah Palin didn’t abort Trig on DailyKos or DemocraticUnderground

Well, we’re not “for war”, we just want to kill the jihadists before they try and kill us.

As far as the “Iraq was not responsible for 9/11″ rehashed Democrat Talking Point – by the way, you forgot to lie and say we never found WMD – which is only true if you don’t count the Chemical Warheads and other WMD, let me remind you:

Saddam Hussein Had a Terrorist Training Facility in Salman Pak
He was paying families of Palestinian Suicide Bombers $25,000. You should note that Suicide Bombings in Israel decreased significantly when Saddam was taken out.

Saddam was filling Mass Graves and running Rape Rooms and other atrocities – worse than the reasons the Dems who think the US should storm Darfur give.

But by all means, keep deluding yourself that this was a War For Oil, or that we GOPers are idiots who think Saddam did 9/11.

It makes you much easier to beat on Election Day.

I wonder how many dead Iraqi women, kids and regular “Joes” have been killed as well. I noticed you quoted scripture to defend your position. Is this a holy war for you? Is this the crusades? Here’s a nice little story for you:

One of my former employees has a brother in Iraq. He is a three tour artillery sergeant. They received an assignment to shell some little town where the “terrorists” were and shelled the crap out of it. After the town was secure, he and several members of his unit went in to asess the damage. When they walked into town, one of the first things they saw was half a body (upper torso) fused to the hood of a car. In the insense heat of the shelling, this dismembered body had been thrown onto the hood, nearly upright, and fused to it. The body was that of a child. He said at that point he began to question the usefulness of this war. Small wonder.

I guess for guys like you, Daniel, innocent dead foreigners are just the price we’ll have to pay, right? After all, it’s God’s will isn’t it?

Unbelieveably, many of you still think that Iraq had something to do with 9-11. Nevermind that most of the hijackers were Saudis and that al queda was and is still based primarily out of Afghanistan (the forgotten war)and in the tribal regions of Pakistan. I would agree that there are probably more terorists in Iraq now than there ever were, primarily because they have been sent there from outside of the country by al queda and other wacko factions to have the opportunity to kill Americans. The commander of forces in Afghanistan recently said that he is woefully understaffed there. There are currently only 33,000 ground troops in Afghanistan, compared with 160,000 in Iraq. At this point, the troops in Afghanistan (where the real terrorists train and live) are barely able to hold ground, and the commander there has voiced that it is only a matter of time before the taliban (now allied with al queda) creeps back into the larger towns. The more troubling aspect of all of this is the takeover of the northwestern region of Pakistan by al queda. They have been embraced by both the taliban and the local tribal leaders there, and have publicly stated that their mission is to drive out the government of Pakistan, a country that has at least 20 nuclear warheads.

The real war is in Afghanistan, not Iraq. We have taken the bait (fed to us by Bush and Faux News) that the terrorist threat is from Iraq, when there is actually a far more imminent danger from the Afghan/Pakistan border regions. We have played into al queda’s plans quite well by ramping up Iraq and all but ignoring the mounting threat in Pakistan. Only a matter of time…

In any case Daniel (Naq too), since you believe that Iraq is a holy war please get off the computer and get thee down to you local army recruiter’s office and sign up. This way you can prove that you are more than an armchair patriot.

And I bet she wears them well, too…

I find it very frightening that the media has downplayed the fact that we need to know WHO OBAMA IS! There is a lot of information available on the internet. Obama has a lot of unsavory connecitons that are alarming. He has been involved in violent attacks on innocent voters in Kenya. Obama has extreme left-wing views, which he is hiding.

Obama was a MILITANT ACTIVIST for poor blacks. This did not involve teaching them skills and showing them how to get out and earn money and work productively. It involved stirring up envy, greed, anger in them so that they would fight to get more tax dollars from productive Americans.

Obama stayed for twenty years in a “church” with a virullently anti- white racist pastor. I am white and I would walk out of any “church” that expressed that sort of venom against blacks.

Obama does not represent poor blacks, whites, middle-class people, the rich. It is hard to see who he really stands for. He elicits love and support from everyone; but if he is elected, we will see that he does not feel love or loyalty for anyone.

Obama will destroy America by taxing the middle class. The wealthy will not stick around to be abusively taxed by him; they will walk away. They are super mobile. The poor will not learn to be productive by getting bigger and bigger hand-outs.

But don’t take my word for it, look it up. When people scream “Let’s trust him and have a change. We don’t care what kind of change it is.”, I think of a film I saw of a young woman struggling to survive in Russia. She meets a nice friend who tells her that he can take her to Switzerland where she can get a good job. She goes with him and is confined and raped continuously in Switzerland. She wishes to escape to commit suicide, but is unable to do so.

Do not listen to Obama’s argument that if things are bad now, they can only get worse with McCain. They can get far far worse with Obama than anything you can imagine. He will kill initiative and productivity.