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		<title>By: grubbsi</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/11/10/support-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-10828</link>
		<dc:creator>grubbsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you would take the time and trouble to actually root around on the web some and find out the truth, instead of being spoon fed by the media you will know more than you do now. Pt Thompson is a 2nd year level question. but it is all about what this lady really did do as AO&amp;GCC chairman and then governor.  It is the entry level question to a higher level discussion.  If that is too hard, how about name 2 international associate members of the Interstate Oil &amp; Gas commerce Compact who have been in the news lately.  peferably the one that was in a shooting war this summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you would take the time and trouble to actually root around on the web some and find out the truth, instead of being spoon fed by the media you will know more than you do now. Pt Thompson is a 2nd year level question. but it is all about what this lady really did do as AO&amp;GCC chairman and then governor.  It is the entry level question to a higher level discussion.  If that is too hard, how about name 2 international associate members of the Interstate Oil &amp; Gas commerce Compact who have been in the news lately.  peferably the one that was in a shooting war this summer.</p>
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		<title>By: brs</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/11/10/support-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-10806</link>
		<dc:creator>brs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;brains or courage to respond to my questions&quot;

I have no idea what the whole point thompson business is - I guess this means I have no brains or courage? That&#039;s pretty silly...

She may have been a great negotiator of oil and gas contracts. She may have even been fine to run Alaska - or lead a seccesion movement for Alaska or whatever. I&#039;m not saying that she&#039;s not good at anything or that she&#039;s the anti-Christ here.

The fact of the matter is, however, that she demonstrated her cmoplete lack of simple facts re: every topic from science to foreign policy to SCOTUS rulings, and that should disqualify here from being VPOTUS. 


Do you have the &quot;brains or courage&quot; (whatever that means) to defend here answers to the questions that were posed to her by either Couric or Gibson? Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;brains or courage to respond to my questions&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no idea what the whole point thompson business is &#8211; I guess this means I have no brains or courage? That&#8217;s pretty silly&#8230;</p>
<p>She may have been a great negotiator of oil and gas contracts. She may have even been fine to run Alaska &#8211; or lead a seccesion movement for Alaska or whatever. I&#8217;m not saying that she&#8217;s not good at anything or that she&#8217;s the anti-Christ here.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is, however, that she demonstrated her cmoplete lack of simple facts re: every topic from science to foreign policy to SCOTUS rulings, and that should disqualify here from being VPOTUS. </p>
<p>Do you have the &#8220;brains or courage&#8221; (whatever that means) to defend here answers to the questions that were posed to her by either Couric or Gibson? Please.</p>
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		<title>By: grubbsi</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/11/10/support-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-10791</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that you guys are busy arguing about how many anti-intellectuals can dance on the head of a pin, and that nobody has the brains or courage to respond to my questions about Point Thompson ect.  guess you want to belive what you have been told rather than try to learn something on your own

I personally thought the Bush doctrine was that what you shave depends on the cut of your bikini</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that you guys are busy arguing about how many anti-intellectuals can dance on the head of a pin, and that nobody has the brains or courage to respond to my questions about Point Thompson ect.  guess you want to belive what you have been told rather than try to learn something on your own</p>
<p>I personally thought the Bush doctrine was that what you shave depends on the cut of your bikini</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Chuckles</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/11/10/support-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-10790</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Chuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

You asked:

&quot;Mr. Chuckles are you really that much of a dumbass.&quot;

What you meant to say:

&quot;Mr. Chuckles, are you really that much of a dumbass?&quot;

Proper punctuation will keep you from looking like, well, a dumbass.

And yes, I&#039;m sure Obama&#039;s suits are expensive.  Frankly I don&#039;t really care.  It was just a joke.  Take a deep breath and try to relax.  After all, $150,000 is a perfectly reasonable amount to spend on a wardrobe.  It&#039;s what all &quot;regular Joes&quot; spend anyway (that was a joke again).

P.S.
The grammar lesson is free of charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>You asked:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Chuckles are you really that much of a dumbass.&#8221;</p>
<p>What you meant to say:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. Chuckles, are you really that much of a dumbass?&#8221;</p>
<p>Proper punctuation will keep you from looking like, well, a dumbass.</p>
<p>And yes, I&#8217;m sure Obama&#8217;s suits are expensive.  Frankly I don&#8217;t really care.  It was just a joke.  Take a deep breath and try to relax.  After all, $150,000 is a perfectly reasonable amount to spend on a wardrobe.  It&#8217;s what all &#8220;regular Joes&#8221; spend anyway (that was a joke again).</p>
<p>P.S.<br />
The grammar lesson is free of charge.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynic13</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/11/10/support-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-10773</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynic13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is still &quot;...a Republic governed by and for the people...&quot; Then the people have spoken, we don&#039;t want Palin anywhere near the White House!

I recognize that Palin has made great progress as a woman in a male dominated field; is a strong woman who lives her beliefs; is a woman who has exercised her right to choose to have as many children as she and her husband decide; is a likeable person outside of the political arena....

HOWEVER I do not support, nor ever will support, a candidate (male or female, white or otherwise) who wishes to destroy the environment, demonize his/her opponents based on their appearance or acquaintances, or take away MY right to live MY beliefs and make MY OWN choices for my family.

Why is it the far-right thinks that LAWS should force everyone to believe as they do? This country was founded on religous FREEDOM - NOT Christianity! Many of our founding fathers (like Franklin) were agnostic, and they were certainly products of higher education and intellectualism...why have we suddenly turned away from our beginnings to demonize those who work hard to become educated and knowledgeable? Don&#039;t we want the smartest and brightest to be in charge??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is still &#8220;&#8230;a Republic governed by and for the people&#8230;&#8221; Then the people have spoken, we don&#8217;t want Palin anywhere near the White House!</p>
<p>I recognize that Palin has made great progress as a woman in a male dominated field; is a strong woman who lives her beliefs; is a woman who has exercised her right to choose to have as many children as she and her husband decide; is a likeable person outside of the political arena&#8230;.</p>
<p>HOWEVER I do not support, nor ever will support, a candidate (male or female, white or otherwise) who wishes to destroy the environment, demonize his/her opponents based on their appearance or acquaintances, or take away MY right to live MY beliefs and make MY OWN choices for my family.</p>
<p>Why is it the far-right thinks that LAWS should force everyone to believe as they do? This country was founded on religous FREEDOM &#8211; NOT Christianity! Many of our founding fathers (like Franklin) were agnostic, and they were certainly products of higher education and intellectualism&#8230;why have we suddenly turned away from our beginnings to demonize those who work hard to become educated and knowledgeable? Don&#8217;t we want the smartest and brightest to be in charge??</p>
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		<title>By: brs</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/11/10/support-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-10772</link>
		<dc:creator>brs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your first three paragraphs are completely empty speech that neither address any of my points nor advance any new points, possibly save for a ad hom attack via hasty gen of what you &quot;think&quot; my politics are. My advice: instead of defending a straw man from your previous comment, withdraw him and move on.

Special acknowledgement should be given for ignoring that I said my judgement of her has NOTHING to do with her being conservative and pointing out specific conservatives whose intellect is to be admired - not once, but twice. Ignoring what&#039;s inconvenient is always a good dialectic tactic.

&quot;Palin’s every word had been hyperscrutinized by legions of attack dogs bent on blood, yet Biden’s repeated misstatements barely even made the press. The double standard is stunning. If you apply the same standard, you should necessarily conclude he is a moron as well. Instead, what I see is plain old people in high stress positions making mistakes like anyone.&quot;

1. Biden can make Palin neither dumber nor smarter.
2. But if we are to compare - Palin didn&#039;t understand the foreign policies of the Bush administration, couldn&#039;t identify 1 periodical that she reads, didn&#039;t know that the fruit fly was the model for immense amounts of bio research (and isn&#039;t researched for - ya know - knowledge about drosophilia per se), etc. These are low-level things that someone in the position she wanted to be in needs to know. Biden may be a schmuck , but he understands basic knowledge about the world. Remember: he was asked the same questions by Couric and answered them - maybe not with position that either of us might agree with, but showing that he UNDERSTOOD what the basic facts were.


&quot;Do I prefer know nothings? Not necessarily. What I prefer is people of any stripe, with the humility to *refuse* to push their ideas onto others via State proxy in areas where people are not violating anyone elses negative rights.

This isn’t about intellectuals or know nothings..it’s about the willingness to use other people’s lives, property, actions, and choices to serve your own ends because you think your judgement and goals are superior theirs. We’re not here to be servants, tools, or means, and neither another citizen, the State, or Society, is our god, owner, or creator.

Get the heck out of the lives of people who aren’t violating the rights of others, and you won’t be tagged as the bad kind of know it all.&quot;

OK, that&#039;s fine. But you need someone who can function as the arbiter thereof in an intelligent manner, and she cannot. Any of the other conservatives I named (and they were but exeamples, as I said) could serve these ends effectively. But Palin has demonstrated that she simply is not intelligent enough - or at the least does not know enough -  to do the job. You have to at the least have 0 intellectual ciuriosity to be here age and still not know these things.

It&#039;s not conservative vs liberal. She&#039;s a dolt, and i really cannot understand how you&#039;re not disturbed by the simple things that she doesn&#039;t know. She could name ONE supremem court case!!!!! Not ONE? 

Legions of attack dogs bent on blood? For asking here what newspapers she reads, or what SCOTUS rulings she disagrees with, or what she thinks of the Bush doctrine? Should they NOT have asked her those questions? And it&#039;s not that I didn&#039;t like the answers - it&#039;s that she didn&#039;t even understand the questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your first three paragraphs are completely empty speech that neither address any of my points nor advance any new points, possibly save for a ad hom attack via hasty gen of what you &#8220;think&#8221; my politics are. My advice: instead of defending a straw man from your previous comment, withdraw him and move on.</p>
<p>Special acknowledgement should be given for ignoring that I said my judgement of her has NOTHING to do with her being conservative and pointing out specific conservatives whose intellect is to be admired &#8211; not once, but twice. Ignoring what&#8217;s inconvenient is always a good dialectic tactic.</p>
<p>&#8220;Palin’s every word had been hyperscrutinized by legions of attack dogs bent on blood, yet Biden’s repeated misstatements barely even made the press. The double standard is stunning. If you apply the same standard, you should necessarily conclude he is a moron as well. Instead, what I see is plain old people in high stress positions making mistakes like anyone.&#8221;</p>
<p>1. Biden can make Palin neither dumber nor smarter.<br />
2. But if we are to compare &#8211; Palin didn&#8217;t understand the foreign policies of the Bush administration, couldn&#8217;t identify 1 periodical that she reads, didn&#8217;t know that the fruit fly was the model for immense amounts of bio research (and isn&#8217;t researched for &#8211; ya know &#8211; knowledge about drosophilia per se), etc. These are low-level things that someone in the position she wanted to be in needs to know. Biden may be a schmuck , but he understands basic knowledge about the world. Remember: he was asked the same questions by Couric and answered them &#8211; maybe not with position that either of us might agree with, but showing that he UNDERSTOOD what the basic facts were.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do I prefer know nothings? Not necessarily. What I prefer is people of any stripe, with the humility to *refuse* to push their ideas onto others via State proxy in areas where people are not violating anyone elses negative rights.</p>
<p>This isn’t about intellectuals or know nothings..it’s about the willingness to use other people’s lives, property, actions, and choices to serve your own ends because you think your judgement and goals are superior theirs. We’re not here to be servants, tools, or means, and neither another citizen, the State, or Society, is our god, owner, or creator.</p>
<p>Get the heck out of the lives of people who aren’t violating the rights of others, and you won’t be tagged as the bad kind of know it all.&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, that&#8217;s fine. But you need someone who can function as the arbiter thereof in an intelligent manner, and she cannot. Any of the other conservatives I named (and they were but exeamples, as I said) could serve these ends effectively. But Palin has demonstrated that she simply is not intelligent enough &#8211; or at the least does not know enough &#8211;  to do the job. You have to at the least have 0 intellectual ciuriosity to be here age and still not know these things.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not conservative vs liberal. She&#8217;s a dolt, and i really cannot understand how you&#8217;re not disturbed by the simple things that she doesn&#8217;t know. She could name ONE supremem court case!!!!! Not ONE? </p>
<p>Legions of attack dogs bent on blood? For asking here what newspapers she reads, or what SCOTUS rulings she disagrees with, or what she thinks of the Bush doctrine? Should they NOT have asked her those questions? And it&#8217;s not that I didn&#8217;t like the answers &#8211; it&#8217;s that she didn&#8217;t even understand the questions.</p>
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		<title>By: MtnGoat</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2008/11/10/support-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-10768</link>
		<dc:creator>MtnGoat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The basis for my statements was not claimed to be specifically what you stated other than your claim of attacks on intellectualism, all rooted in the same inferences....if you oppose know it alls, you must be anti intellectual. 

I have plenty of experience with shadow boxing folks making these claims, where every inference is backed out of by &#039;i didn&#039;t say that&#039;. 

No, you didn&#039;t...and you don&#039;t need to, because the claims made are rooted in the reasons I explain. Never actually placing a stake in the dirt to defend, is a core feature of these kinds of vapor attacks. 

Palin&#039;s every word had been hyperscrutinized by legions of attack dogs bent on blood, yet Biden&#039;s repeated misstatements barely even made the press. The double standard is stunning. If you apply the same standard, you should necessarily conclude he is a moron as well. Instead, what I see is plain old people in high stress positions making mistakes like anyone. 

Do I prefer know nothings? Not necessarily. What I prefer is people of any stripe, with the humility to *refuse* to push their ideas onto others via State proxy in areas where people are not violating anyone elses negative rights. 

This isn&#039;t about intellectuals or know nothings..it&#039;s about the willingness to use other people&#039;s lives, property, actions, and choices to serve your own ends because you think your judgement and goals are superior to theirs. We&#039;re not here to be servants, tools, or means, and neither another citizen, the State, or Society, is our god, owner, or creator. 

Get the heck out of the lives of people who aren&#039;t violating the rights of others, and you won&#039;t be tagged as the bad kind of know it all.

I don&#039;t hate smart people or knowledge. What I, and others, *oppose*, is the use of free citizens lives as tools for ends that are not specifically their own and literally chosen by them. No matter how smart you or anyone else is, that is wrong. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The basis for my statements was not claimed to be specifically what you stated other than your claim of attacks on intellectualism, all rooted in the same inferences&#8230;.if you oppose know it alls, you must be anti intellectual. </p>
<p>I have plenty of experience with shadow boxing folks making these claims, where every inference is backed out of by &#8216;i didn&#8217;t say that&#8217;. </p>
<p>No, you didn&#8217;t&#8230;and you don&#8217;t need to, because the claims made are rooted in the reasons I explain. Never actually placing a stake in the dirt to defend, is a core feature of these kinds of vapor attacks. </p>
<p>Palin&#8217;s every word had been hyperscrutinized by legions of attack dogs bent on blood, yet Biden&#8217;s repeated misstatements barely even made the press. The double standard is stunning. If you apply the same standard, you should necessarily conclude he is a moron as well. Instead, what I see is plain old people in high stress positions making mistakes like anyone. </p>
<p>Do I prefer know nothings? Not necessarily. What I prefer is people of any stripe, with the humility to *refuse* to push their ideas onto others via State proxy in areas where people are not violating anyone elses negative rights. </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about intellectuals or know nothings..it&#8217;s about the willingness to use other people&#8217;s lives, property, actions, and choices to serve your own ends because you think your judgement and goals are superior to theirs. We&#8217;re not here to be servants, tools, or means, and neither another citizen, the State, or Society, is our god, owner, or creator. </p>
<p>Get the heck out of the lives of people who aren&#8217;t violating the rights of others, and you won&#8217;t be tagged as the bad kind of know it all.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hate smart people or knowledge. What I, and others, *oppose*, is the use of free citizens lives as tools for ends that are not specifically their own and literally chosen by them. No matter how smart you or anyone else is, that is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d still fuck ya!</description>
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		<title>By: brs</title>
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		<dc:creator>brs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Mtn goat has a problem w/ the English language:

&quot;Now a word to BRS. It seems the canard about conservatives being ‘anti-intellectual’ carries some currency with this poster.&quot;

Right, which is why I said this:
&quot;There are plenty of really smart conservatives - Newt, Mitt Romney, Christie Todd Whitman, etc. &quot;


&quot;I’m sure the left loves to pat itself on the back with this kind of self aggrandizement, it’s what they’re best at, and after all, opposing the Smartest People On Earth must mean you oppose intellectualism and knowledge.&quot;

I said this? Did I, now. Please show me where.


&quot;We don’t oppose knowledge…we oppose know it alls. Know it alls who think that everyone else around them needs the benefit of their great big brains, imposed upon them via the fist of State.&quot;

I said this too? Wow, I said a lot of things I didn&#039;t say. 

Palin demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge on an incredibly large range of issues. The drosophilia comment alone - my God! Should I go on? It has nothing to do with conservatives being stupid or any of that (which is why I EXPLICITLY stated that). She does not know very much about anything as far as I can tell. She doesn&#039;t even know what paper she reads - we could go on.

&quot;We don’t oppose intellect, we oppose know it alls. Big Difference.&quot;

So you prefer know-nothings? Like I said - you have plenty of really smart and capapble conservative to choose from. No one said anything about John McCAin&#039;s intellect - he&#039;s quite sharp, actually. But Palin is an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Mtn goat has a problem w/ the English language:</p>
<p>&#8220;Now a word to BRS. It seems the canard about conservatives being ‘anti-intellectual’ carries some currency with this poster.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right, which is why I said this:<br />
&#8220;There are plenty of really smart conservatives &#8211; Newt, Mitt Romney, Christie Todd Whitman, etc. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m sure the left loves to pat itself on the back with this kind of self aggrandizement, it’s what they’re best at, and after all, opposing the Smartest People On Earth must mean you oppose intellectualism and knowledge.&#8221;</p>
<p>I said this? Did I, now. Please show me where.</p>
<p>&#8220;We don’t oppose knowledge…we oppose know it alls. Know it alls who think that everyone else around them needs the benefit of their great big brains, imposed upon them via the fist of State.&#8221;</p>
<p>I said this too? Wow, I said a lot of things I didn&#8217;t say. </p>
<p>Palin demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge on an incredibly large range of issues. The drosophilia comment alone &#8211; my God! Should I go on? It has nothing to do with conservatives being stupid or any of that (which is why I EXPLICITLY stated that). She does not know very much about anything as far as I can tell. She doesn&#8217;t even know what paper she reads &#8211; we could go on.</p>
<p>&#8220;We don’t oppose intellect, we oppose know it alls. Big Difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you prefer know-nothings? Like I said &#8211; you have plenty of really smart and capapble conservative to choose from. No one said anything about John McCAin&#8217;s intellect &#8211; he&#8217;s quite sharp, actually. But Palin is an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: brs</title>
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		<dc:creator>brs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trish:

Explain, please:

&quot;I hope that support for Palin is a rejection of intellectualism, because intellectualism is the enemy of knowledge.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trish:</p>
<p>Explain, please:</p>
<p>&#8220;I hope that support for Palin is a rejection of intellectualism, because intellectualism is the enemy of knowledge.&#8221;</p>
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