I’m glad to see that…

“You’re exactly right. We should systematically round up every Muslim in America and send them to “relocation camps.” We can interrogate them, using torture if needed, until they all confess to being the terrorists we really know them to be. Then, since terrorists clearly don’t deserve trials, we can just mass execute them. Any means will do: firing squads, gas chamber, pack of wolves, whatever. After all, it’s not like they’re really people, right?”

Well, I’ll be brutally honest with this one.
I do believe that terrorists should be shot out
of hand. But then, I believe in total war, not
the mealy-mouth version that gets our soldiers
killed for no good reason. And spare me the
“terrorists are people too..” line. We’re not
talking about a group of people (i.e. the Jews)
whose only crime was to exist. We’re talking
about people who actively want to destroy this
country. But hey, keep thinking they way you
do. When they take over, you’ll be one of the
first to go…Yeah, I really want to wait until
they comprise more of a percentage of the
population so that they can feel more emboldened
to make major attacks. Great idea. Obama
should pick you for his national security
advisory board.

Oh yeah, one more thing.
Whether it was right or wrong to intern the
Japanese during WWII, you cannot argue its
effectiveness. There was no sabotage on the
West Coast. That says a lot.

“After we’ve taken care of the problem within our own borders, we can go abroad. Let me be the first to suggest that we start with Indonesia. Lots of Muslims, and we can simply drop nukes since we won’t have to get permission to use anyone else’s airspace. By that time, I’m sure Muslims around the world will fall into two groups. Some will want to fight; they will be easy to take care of. The problem will be getting to the cowards who run for their lives. They’ll be harder to find.”

As far as I’m concerned, if the Muslims want to
resurrect their Caliphate in their corner of the
world, I have no issue with it. As long as it’s
not here. If they continue with the jihad, then
more drastic measures would have to be taken.
Also, bear in mind that the new jihad against
the West will not be by warriors with spears and
swords on camels and horses. This time around
they’ll have all sorts of goodies like nukes and
bio weapons. Oh yeah, I forgot, it’s ok if they
have them. We’re the ones who are supposed to
remain defenseless. Yeah, the national
security spot looks better for you by the
minute.

“It might take a while, maybe even decades, but I’m sure we’re ingenious enough to solve this problem. Just to prove I’m onboard, I’ve even come up with a slogan: “Try anti-Muslim zealotry, it’s the new McCarthyism!””

Ah yes, one cannot complete the liberal
nonsensical debate without invoking McCarthy. Ironically, Senator McCarthy actually underestimated the Communist threat. You might want to look up the Venona Files if you have the time. You can even Google
it. You’re the big academic researcher, right? I’d rather have McCarthy than an Islamic Stalin.

“Thanks again, Mat, for opening my eyes.”

No problem. Some people need more than an
eye opener to get the light through…

I still don’t trust them, but if you want to, go right ahead. I pretty much guarantee that my
throat won’t be slit as a result.

Your argument was so well-reasoned and easy to read that it finally got through my dense head.

You’re exactly right. We should systematically round up every Muslim in America and send them to “relocation camps.” We can interrogate them, using torture if needed, until they all confess to being the terrorists we really know them to be. Then, since terrorists clearly don’t deserve trials, we can just mass execute them. Any means will do: firing squads, gas chamber, pack of wolves, whatever. After all, it’s not like they’re really people, right?

After we’ve taken care of the problem within our own borders, we can go abroad. Let me be the first to suggest that we start with Indonesia. Lots of Muslims, and we can simply drop nukes since we won’t have to get permission to use anyone else’s airspace. By that time, I’m sure Muslims around the world will fall into two groups. Some will want to fight; they will be easy to take care of. The problem will be getting to the cowards who run for their lives. They’ll be harder to find.

It might take a while, maybe even decades, but I’m sure we’re ingenious enough to solve this problem. Just to prove I’m onboard, I’ve even come up with a slogan: “Try anti-Muslim zealotry, it’s the new McCarthyism!”

Thanks again, Mat, for opening my eyes.

Oh yeah, Matt, while you’re off on your “let’s just try to be reasonable” theme (must be nice in cushy academia-land), let me ask you what would happen if these jackasses ever attempted to do that in a city here? Still want to be reasonable and wishy-washy? Ok, let me up the ante and say it’s a nuclear or a biological attack? Still hunky-dorey with you?

Let me give you an example of how people can actually turn on a fanatical minority. The militias were really big in the 1990′s, until Timothy McVeigh pulled the Oklahoma city bombing. You know, that terrorist incident that the left keeps thumping over the right’s head whenever we say anything regarding Islamic terrorism (though it’s odd that the left can only use that one example) Last time I checked, everyone pretty much jumped all over them to the point where you barely hear anything about the militias anymore. Do they still exist? Yes they do, but they are much more circumspect in their actions and they have nowhere near the belligerence that they displayed in the early 90′s.

If the Islamic community really wanted to deal with these fanatics, they could. I mean, the “experts” keep telling us that it’s only 1-2% of the Muslim population that’s doing this, right (by the way, I find this percentage to be total bull, but that’s an argument for another time)? So there’s no reason why they couldn’t deal with this problem in a month. The question is whether they really are against these attacks?

Hey, if you want to buddy up to these people, go right ahead. I’m sure the stewardesses on the 9/11 flights were nice and courteous to their “hosts”. The thanks they got were slit throats. Sorry, but I reserve the right to totally not trust them, bigoted or otherwise. I call it a survival instinct.

On the other hand, I was trying to make the point that Christians in this country don’t often get a chance to deal with their extremists directly, because of the response that they draw automatically. And you did specifically ask Dr. Melissa what she had done to deal with them.

And yes, I agree that the MSM is at least partially (if not mostly) responsible for not hearing from the Moderate Muslim community. However, of the ones that I have seen, many of the statements have rung hollow – they were formulaic depositions which had the appearance of being done merely to be able to say that a statement had been made. There was none of the outrage that I would expect from someone who was truly offended by the actions.

Another thing about numbers, this poll shows that 13% of Muslim Americans indicate violence against civilians is justified “in defense of Islam”, and while I can’t really summarize this poll very well in a single sentence, it contains some very disturbing numbers.

Go to google and type in the following search terms: “Muslim leader denounce terrorism”. The number of Muslims you have heard denounce terrorism will increase exponentially in a matter of seconds.

Anish,

I’m no expert on the Koran, but I can’t help but think that you’ve either misunderstood the quote you provide or taken it out of context. After all, I could argue that Christianity is based on purification of souls through the torture of Jesus Christ, but I have a feeling many Christians would see that as a perversion of their faith.

Thats why they touture lamb so viciously before killing it on Eid. That’s how they tourtured Daniel Pearl. We all saw that video.

I have seen and heard exactly ONE Muslim in America, or elsewhere,denounce terrorism, and that was Muhammed Ali. All the rest is in the nature of, “Oh, you’re so awful to blame us, it’s not our fault, they’re extremists, most of us don’t do things like that.” Just as you’re doing.

Christians do denounce those of our number who do evil, and quite publicly. The result? Christians are “judgmental.”