Conservative-Libertarian Treatise

December 2, 2008 / 10:06 am • By Dr. Melissa Clouthier

What should we stand for? Here’s what I think we should stand for:

Life: Protecting life, preserving life, defending life, encouraging life and fostering ways to make life more abundant.

Liberty: There is a sense that there are too many laws, constricting too many lives, for too many idiosyncratic reasons. People need to be free from too many regulations and nit-picky rules. It has gotten to the point where nearly no person or profession can comply with the law. That’s a problem. Freedom equals economic determination. A person who keeps his money, keeps his choices.

Justice: Laws should be applied fairly and make sense. There shouldn’t be different standards for people of different races, genders, ages, etc. The punishments should be fair and equitable.

Limited Government: This is choosing the individual over the collective. The fundamental belief is people know how best to live their lives. The government is a harsh task-master. People should have their own money, not be taxed to death.

Strong Defense: Defend the borders. Win wars. Make the efforts swift and complete and as humane as possible. End war as quickly as possible. Terrorism is with us to stay. The government’s foremost job is defend the country. The intelligence and military serve as the country’s immune system. It must be strong.

Strong Infrastructure: Too much government money goes for stupid projects. Meanwhile, the country crumbles. It IS the government’s job to make sure people can travel and that includes on the information superhighway. Good roads, bridges, tunnels, communication, energy are a foundation for commerce, and heaven forbid, for defense.

Individual Rights: You’d think that the Bill of Rights would be enough, but no. Look at what happened with the Kelo decision. The Supreme Court made it simple for the government to take property away from the individual. This is wrong. Period. Individuals should be able to speak, congregate, keep their property, have as many guns as they want, etc. This shouldn’t even be a discussion, but some do-gooder is convinced that Americans can’t handle their rights and the solution is to take them away. The flip side of individual rights is individual responsibility. That is self-reliance naturally grows out of individualism. As families have broken down, government reliance has become the new way.

Conservation verses environmentalism. Environmental theories come and go, but a few principles remain: Clean air and water, pure food, and conserving of the species is a no-brainer. The top of the species is man. It is man’s responsibility to care for what he controls. Back to that individual thing.

I know this isn’t complete, by any means, but I’m trying to keep it simple. Feel free to add your thoughts in the comments. If the Republicans are going to win back American leadership, they need to be guided by core principles. Retaining power for its own sake is not a principle, it’s been the problem.

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/ajmahler A. J. Mahler

    I like your brief summaries of the concepts. This is a thoughtful piece that quickly gets to the point!

  • http://johninmayretta.blogspot.com John H

    The one thing I would emphasize is the property rights of individuals. You cover it to some degree in your section on Individual Rights, but I’ve gotten into more arguments with liberals who claim that “nothing is said in the founding documents about property rights”. Which is true to the extent that nothing is specifically stated about it, but it’s the clear intention of the Founders. On the whole, though, this is an excellent summation of what we believe.

  • Cousin Dave

    Reads good to me. In the “Life” clause, I’d like to see some words added about self-defense and defense of family and friends. I think the “Individual Rights” paragraph should include something about the right to one’s own spiritual and political beliefs (as long as they don’t involve abridging other peoples’ rights). And “Limited Government” needs to emphasize the concept of enumerated powers — the government can only do what the people have specifically granted it the authority to do.

  • http://www.bonzai.squarespace.com M Farmer

    Very good — you’ve nailed some very important principles.

  • http://www.politics4all.com/users/jenci/blog JenciTN

    Great points. To the property rights issue – while I agree with the spirit of what John H said, I think we need to remember that our property rights are really only as good as our last property-tax payment. If you were to stop paying your property taxes on property that you OWN, you just go see how many “rights” you have to that piece of land! We might think we own it, but we don’t own squat – and unfortunately, the local leadership can continue to raise property tax rates year after year (and no one seems to pay much attention to this). Anyway, just wanted to state the obvious….but great post.

  • J David

    Conservatism and Libertarianism only slightly overlap. The instant any regulation is put on prostitution, “pron”, drugs, abortion, assisted suicide, or the necessity of military action the two sharply part ways.

    Libertarian Party money contributers include p*rnography interests, legalized prostitution interests, hippie-dippy pro-legalized dope interests, White Supremicists, pro-aborts, pro-assisted suicide interests, and virulently anti-military “Troofer” rabble-rousers. Those donations were all kept by the party, which has no problem with those interests.

    While I, as a Constitutional Conservative, entirely, enthusiastically agree with all of the above points in the treatise, I do not see a way back from precedents already set by the oligarchy we now serve and fund from our pockets at gun-point. Short of dissolution of the Union, or a 1775-style tax revolt by a LARGE number of motivated and fearless taxpayers, we are now, and will continue to be a socialist faux *democracy*.

  • Cousin Dave

    J David, I would argue that those people weren’t libertarians, they were libertines. Big difference. IHMO, a true liberatarian must accept that with liberty comes responsibility.

  • J David

    You may be so ideological yourself, Cousin Dave, but my own brother, who is a dead-on stereotype of all of the Libertarians I know is exactly a “Libertine”, which is a name I have used in derision for many years when referring to Libertarians. Your own ideals are not everyone else’s ideals.

    The aforementioned reasons, however, all personal opinion vacuum aside, is why Libertarians got 4% of the vote, in spite of the RINO candidate. That result, if you try it for the next hundred years, is always going to be the same, until a certain amount of regulation, by law, and of party representation is excepted.

    Personal intentions mean absolutely zilch outside the vacuum of personal opinion/ideals, and will never translate into political power without broad appeal.

  • http://www.bonzai.squarespace.com M Farmer

    In order to get a more thorough, intellectual understanding of libertarian thought, it would be useful to read Tibor Machan and Jan Naverson. The caricature of libertarian thought is a simplistic reduction and doesn’t take into account the philosophic foundation, which I’m sure many so-called “libertarians” haven’t studied.

  • J David

    The vast, milling herds of sheeple that make up the majority of voters(in either party) don’t sit around reading nuanced political philosophy, and the non-hippie, non-doper, pro-life, anti-p*rn/ anti-prostitution, pro-defense minority of pointy-headed intellectuals inside the Libertarian Party visualizing it with all their might still ain’t going to make it happen. Most people start paying attention to an election about ten minutes before they drag themselves reluctantly to the polls to vote.

  • J David

    The insane, raging popularity of loons like Paris, Brittany, FiftyCent(and, yes, single women and minorities turned our country over to the Marxist), etc. should go long way in describing what people are thinking about most of the time… And how hopeless it is for anyone to expect *nuance* and *finesse* to win the day against five-minute attention spans.

    A clear, strong, simple message, and the willingness to wield political power once it is obtained is what the sheeple hear, and want, from either party.

  • http://www.bonzai.squarespace.com M Farmer

    My comments weren’t directed at sheeples or winning elections, they were directed at understanding libertarianism — Before people begin dismissing libertarianism, they should at least understand what it is. Whether people will bother or not was not my point.

    All political thought is more complex than the simplified version presented during presidential elections, and libertarianisn can be simplified to an understandable message — but first you have to understand it, before you can effectively simplify it, or correctly simplify it.

  • J David

    So where will this education begin? How will it then be dispersed to the masses who must spend their vote giving the concepts(which they ultimately must understand before they believe in and vote for it) actual power politically? There is not going to be a spontaneous combustion of energy for an arcane ideology that is ideologically apolitical…The things Libertarianism stands for are what kills it before it can be born. It is individualistic to a degree humans have never been, enmass, individualistic. It is against the wielding of power, or even obtaining it to begin with, apparently. People follow power, and power begets further power. There is no apparatus for the ideas of Libertarianism to spread itself beyond the spider-webbed, dusty halls of academic institutions, or the long-haired, dope-smoking Truthers and racists that scoop out the parts of Libertarianism that serve themselves and throw the general good of society into the trash.

  • http://www.bonzai.squarespace.com M Farmer

    “So where will this education begin? How will it then be dispersed to the masses who must spend their vote giving the concepts(which they ultimately must understand before they believe in and vote for it) actual power politically?”

    Hopefully, the same way as in the libertarian beginning of the country, through persuasion.

    “There is not going to be a spontaneous combustion of energy for an arcane ideology that is ideologically apolitical…The things Libertarianism stands for are what kills it before it can be born.”

    Like what?

    “It is individualistic to a degree humans have never been, enmass, individualistic.”

    If you mean it’s against collectivism, then, yes — if you mean libertarians are for the protection of individual rights, then, yes. Guilty.

    “It is against the wielding of power, or even obtaining it to begin with, apparently.”

    No, it’s not against power, per se. Most libertarians are for a limited government with limited power, as opposed to a big government with great power of coercion that violates individual rights.

    “People follow power, and power begets further power.”

    I can also say, people follow freedom and freedom begets further freedom. Libertarians are surely against more government power, that’s true.

    “There is no apparatus for the ideas of Libertarianism to spread itself beyond the spider-webbed, dusty halls of academic institutions, or the long-haired, dope-smoking Truthers and racists that scoop out the parts of Libertarianism that serve themselves and throw the general good of society into the trash.”

    Hmmm, I don’t know how to answer this. I can see this is leading nowhere fast. One method of spreading libertarian principles is through the spider web of the internet. Reducing libertarians to the whackiest radicals is as wrong as reducing conservatives to religious fanatics, racists and Timothy McVeighs. I will end here because it’s taking an ugly turn. Read Machan, Boaz, Naverson, Paine, Nozick and others if you’re interested. If not, then so be it — it’s a free country, almost.

  • J David

    All the ideals, fine and agreeable though they may be in theory, are ABSOLUTELY USELESS if they cannot be put into practice.

    This country is not trending toward freedom, and the necessary policies to expand freedom are being destroyed, not built.

    Nobody is, as far as the results of the last election show, being “persuaded” toward Libertarianism. Its support shrank.

    Libertarians are against “law as a teacher” concept, and are then, in effect, against the concept of being led. It is an every-man-for- himself, vaguely anarchist(and certainly attractive to those types)form of NON-gov’t government, trusting a non-existent innate brotherhood and goodness of mankind.

    One of Rush’s “35 Undeniable Truths of Life” is that “this a world governed by the aggressive use of force”. The anarchy of Libertarianism cannot, upon its philosophy and recent demonstrations of its results in Trutherism and anti-war protest, muster sufficient military force (without a gov’t enforced draft, which we will soon see from Hussein)to protect citizens. People instinctively recognize isolationism in the present world is impractical and dangerous.

    I am not being purposely combative to Libertarian-in-a-vacuum ideals. I am saying that the practical realities that cannot be “visualized” away by any intentions are that I, and most other social conservatives are going to be completely repulsed by the present riff-raff that surrounds and supports the Libertarian Party. It won’t matter if I read every brilliant piece of academic philosophical thought ever written on Libertarian ideals, they are still only that.

    You will NOT get but a very small, Vox Day-type pointy-head few to read reams of philosophy and then vote on it, and explain that reams of philosophy to others, and get them to vote on it. You WILL get the skimmers who will exploit the points of libertarian thought that are immediately useful to their own anti-social ends mucking-up the water and repelling any significant following of solid, producing citizenry.

    The common definition of insanity these days is doing the same thing over-and-over endlessly expecting a different result each time that never happens. THAT is the Libertarian Party. That does not represent “protection” in any form, to the masses of sheeple who, as human nature dictates, want to be protected.

  • http://www.bonzai.squarespace.com M Farmer

    I never advocated the Libertarian Party, and I’m not a member of the Libertarian Party. I was responding to what I thought were misguided statements concerning “libertarians”.

    You are right that the Libertarian Party has little chance of victory in any major election. The persuasion of libertarian principles is the influence it has on both parties. If Republicans take the view, in earnest, that libertarian values are antithetical to the party, then I predict attrition of Republican power and the eventual collapse of the party.

  • J David

    I expect the collapse of the GOP in its present incarnation, or just as likely, a morphing of a branch of it back into a version of Republicanism as practiced by Ronaldus Magnus. Without a repentance of its straying from first principles(upholding the Constitution as written, and protection FROM big gov’t)and a return to all points of conservatism, which I always argue includes both social and fiscal, and strong defense, it cannot compete with the bribes socialists can offer. Conservatism can only survive if it represents principles that are larger and more universal than mere selfish individual will, which protected freedom of ALL individuals from gov’t encroachment actually is, along with consistently upheld and enforced justice to those individuals.

  • Cousin Dave

    So I see J David’s point about, “How do we go about combatting the leftist education establishment?” And it’s a good question. In my darker moments, I think that the only way to do it is to create a complete shadow education system, consisting of private schools at every level from preschool to post-graduate. The trouble is, it’s really hard to compete against the government, and people who fancy themseves to be arms of the government tend not to like it. That doesn’t mean that we should not continue to pursue private education, but in the short term, it isn’t going to replace the public system.

    So, as far as reforming the public system, there are two things that have to be attacked: the monopoly that school districts and individual school administrators think they have over the student body, and the monopoly that teacher unions think they have over content and access to the classroom. Vouchers are one way of attacking the former; they tend to get bad press, but when you actually explain the concept to people, nearly everyone of every social class gets it and is in favor of it. Another way is to campaign for open school districts: why not let every family choose where in the district it wants its children to go to? Why should children be trapped in a non-performing school just because of what neighborhood they live in? When you explain stuff like this to people, and point out to them the bad effects that a neighborhood being stuck with a non-performing school has (not only on their child’s education but also on property values), most people tend to agree with it.

    A good way of attacking the union monopolies is to press for alternate certification of teachers. Allow people with degrees in the subjects being taught to teach. This breaks up the Marxist ed-schools’ monopoly over the supply of teachers. Instructors with alternate certification are often retirees from industry, and they bring a far more realistic and practical sensibility to the classroom. And right now, alternate certification is flying under the MSM’s radar. Strike while the opportunity is there.

  • J David

    I agree on every point, Cousin, the trouble ultimately still being the implementation of alternatives against hostile local, state, and federal governments, and a monolithic, hostile Fourth Branch in the media. The government controls all of the approved licenses, and the process of licensing, while its misinformation/ enforcement arm in the commie-lib media backs it up. The near-prevalent single parent family structure, or two-income dual-parent structure keep even the most concerned parent much too occupied to offer challenge or competition to the destructive structures now in place.

    The incoming administration is going to be hostile to alternative(and superior)forms of education like we have never seen, and I expect wider revolt against gov’t subsidized propagandizing of children to end in harsher prosecution of parents, and removal of children as “abused”, and a stricter limitation on private and home schooling, as they must to keep and grow their power.

    I have one niece, and three cousins who were/are home schooled, and I and three siblings were private-educated in high school, and as a result we are all well educated and well-informed, but there are still concerns that that will passed on to the next generation, and even that took parents willing to pay taxes for public schooling their children were not accessing, while also paying for private schooling. Not very many people will do that, I’m afraid.

  • anna

    When i was 21 yrs. old, i wrote a socialist manifesto, so entranced with the left, i was.
    i then read the fountainhead, and other works from Ayn Rand, so, i changed my philosophy to objectivism. A bit later, i got turned onto liberatian, and ever since conservative. Swung from one extreme to the other. IT has not changed in years.

    Your manifesto..i agree with completely.

  • LEARNED FOREVER

    I agree with the Treatise…100%. However. It is Pre-21st Century Thinking. We now live in Post-20th Century Feelings — the world in which we live. The Treatise is trumped by issues of emotion, self-pity, victimhood.

    I’m beginning to think I may have landed on the wrong planet. The return of the Mother Ship cannot be too…soon.