Dispensing With Social Niceties

February 19, 2009 / 1:56 pm • By Dr. Melissa Clouthier

Dating can be a hot mess and not the so-bad-she’s good Tara Reid kind, either. As I wrote last week, with the new technology, lack of family cohesion, and cessation of social rules governing all sorts of behavior, people are doing some crazy things (face licking) and thinking it’s normal.

Exhibit A:

If you’ve watched the news at all (I don’t, but I saw the cover of the National Enquirer and other weeklies at the grocery check-out on Sunday), you know that the pop singer Rihanna (featured on this blog in the song Life Your Life) got tuned up by her boyfriend Chris Brown. And by tuned up, I mean her face was severely beaten and she was choked and had to go to the hospital for chronic and persistent head aches (I’m guessing a concussion.)

Now, the reaction by the guys at the counter at H.E.B., one black two white, was this: Rihanna must have done something horrible like give Chris an STD or something because a dude just doesn’t hit the face of a woman because he’s angry.

Exhibit B:

A friend of a friend got tuned up by her husband (who is, by the way, a worthless slug, but that’s another story) because she cheated on him. The person who relayed the story to me defended the husband’s behavior and said that it was understandable that he would beat her like that because of how she disrespected him.

There used to be rules governing this sort of thing. Women stayed virginal and prized that virginity because it gave them great power. Men knew that in order to get nooky from a respectable woman, he’d have to make a commitment and then, once the commitment was made, he received, in return a woman who would more likely be faithful to him and who would be a good mother to his children, etc. She knew that he had self control and respect for her.

Another rule: A man simply would not hit a woman. Period. Ever. These days, though, women are portrayed in movies, on TV, in books, etc. as equal to men in physical strength which is simply not true. So you have guys beating on women and women winning, when, in real life the likelihood of that happening is slim and none. In addition, people possess less conflict-resolution skills and resort to unhelpful behaviors like yelling, screaming, name-calling, physical aggression and sometimes ending in physical violence. This used to be unacceptable. These days, three guys in a grocery store and an acquaintance can spend time arguing to me that it’s acceptable for a guy to beat the heck out of his woman when he’s “disrespected”.

This is what happens when there is no honor and there is no shame and there are no rules for engagement.

So that’s social norms. And the new norms breed babies, STDs, beatings, and misery.

  • J David

    According to recent statistics, women are at least as guilty of physical abuse of spouse as men. It often starts that way, and when he has taken enough, or to merely protect himself, he defends himself he essentially hands over all he has as a result(oh, and due to superior strength often hurts her, too).

    Dating is a lousy way to begin the process of finding a spouse. If one goes about one’s business pursuing the metaphysical reason(s) for their existence, and subsequently meets someone in sympathy with that along the way, starting in a neutral medium (rather than putting ALL of the power – supply/demand – into the hands of the person being actively pursued, thus raising sharply the price) they are more likely to form a lasting bond.

    Women once paid a dowry for the privilege of having an earner/protector/support system. Now it is the man who pays…forever. Man CAN make his way through life without a woman and be fulfilled, a woman much less so.

    Women, for whatever reasons, have accepted the foolishness that they are in all ways the SAME as men. They have turned timeless order of life upside-down. There is a price; we are all paying it.

  • Hellebore

    Can’t believe those guys were making excuses for those actions. Disgusting :/

  • Trish

    You’re so right about most of this. But please don’t use euphemisms or slang terms like “tuned up.” These women were ASSAULTED.
    That’s another thing wrong with modern times. The language is now so screwed up we can’t call anything what it really is (except, of course, all the dirty or blasphemous words,which are to be used at every opportunity).

  • Chalmers

    J David,

    I have seen these “studies” that show women are just as likely to be abusive in relationships… Only one problem, when the woman slaps or hits a man or throws something (remember when Clinton had a shiner because Hillary drilled him with a coffee cup?), the man walks away with a bruise, at the most. That does not excuse the behavior, but it points to the fact that men almost always walk away from the abuse. Women usually do not. Much more damage is done.

    Men have, in almost every case, a huge advantage. Unless the woman is using a gun, knife or cinder block, she is going to come up on the short end of the fight. Again, this does not make it ok for women to be abusive.

  • Chalmers

    Interesting comment from an LA Times Blog commenter:
    WHITNEY wrote: I’M STILL GOING TO SUPPORT CHRIS BROWN UNTIL THE END. I DONT CARE IF HE DID IT OR NOT. OBVIOUSLY SHE PROVOKED HIM AND EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES SO, IM NOT GOING TO DOWN TALK HIM NOR TRY TO BRING HIM DOWN LIKE THE WHITE MEDIA IS GOING TO. HE’S STILL A KID. KIDS MAKE DUMB CHOICES EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. GIVE THE KID A BREAK IT’S HIS FIRST TIME IN HIS 4 YEAR CAREER.

    Nice to see that sending a woman less than half your size to a hospital is just a “dumb choice.” By this logic I get to kick the crap out of my wife once every four years! Maybe that will become our new Leap Year tradition. Every February 29th the beatings will commence.

  • Chalmers
  • Nichevo

    I usually schedule my wife-beatings for April 31st, the hotels are never full that day.

    Chalmers – is it utile to suggest as you do:

    “men almost always walk away from the abuse. Women usually do not.”

    that every time a man strikes a woman, she dies? Is a woman who bleeds for five days every month, or who carries and bears children, really not tough enough to take a punch? Women hit each other all the time, of course.

    I don’t, but I could, slap a woman without breaking her neck or even leaving a bruise. In fact, techniques exist to inflict pain leaving no trace let alone permanent injury.

    In the broad sense you are right, men are bigger and have a typical edge in barehanded aggression. I was once slapped – twice in a row – by a woman regretting a traffic accident, and did not even realize it. She would have noticed if I returned the favor.

    OTOH women are perfectly capable of using weapons. And perfectly capable of harming children whose strength is to hers as hers to her man’s, or even far, far less. Someone should write about the Medea complex.

    Why did Kipling say “the female is the deadlier of the species?”

  • Nichevo

    I assume my remarks above will not be construed as endorsing Chris whoever or VAW in general?

  • http://mkfreeberg.webloggin.com Morgan K Freeberg

    I suggest this excuse-making be diagnosed as a mental disorder, and then inspected as such. There are many factors going into it.

    First off: It would be absurd to argue our society suffers from a shortage of taboos. We’re up to our armpits in taboos. Where to begin…the N word…ridiculing the dialect of any ethnic minority individual or group…emitting carbon. I don’t need to flesh out that list, the point’s made. We certainly understand, and act upon, the concept of social stigma for certain behavior.

    It’s the timelessness that is missing. Everything’s gotta be re-invented. If daddy puffed away at cigars and bitched away about the evils of smoking pot, you have to switch ‘em around to show your “independence.”

    Second off: As you point out, the flawed fantasy that a woman is likely to hold her own in a physical contest with a man, causes the damage to the taboo against hitting women. Which was invented, eons ago, out of concern that men can bring down far more damage.

    Third: Our new library of stigmas — this psychological need to come up with a new library with each generation — is the real root cause. Who, with a voice that many can hear, has been allowed to insinuate that a typical man is more powerful than a typical woman?

    Fourth, and this is what you’ve overlooked, I think: Feminism has also inspired a quest of sorts, by faithless women, to acquire a sort of license to cheat on men. I’m pretty sure these yahoos had that in mind when they made their comments, because they were brought up on…

    Fifth: Another thing you would have done well to explore. Back in the late 1970′s and early 1980′s, there was a pop-psych movement taking place in which the solution to every problem that came along was a visit to a “psychiatrist.” The psychiatrist would then tell you to go home and do something that had to do with “confronting.” Confront a thing, confront a person. It was presented as a panacea, something that would bring “closure” which was a complete lie — the opposite was true. So everyone knew someone who was in “therapy,” and everyone in therapy was put on this endless-loop of confronting. Unhappily, that tradition has endured to such an extent that “gentlemen” who weren’t even born at the time, now have this woven into their genes. A woman who cheats is no longer some vile beast fit to be cast aside into a ditch, where she can meet the lower life forms that deserve her; she has to be confronted. Back in the olden days, sure some guys hit women who cheated on them, but society didn’t legitimize it because, while fracturing the protocol against hitting females, it was also looked upon as silly. Giving her more credit than she was worth. Like hitting garbage.

    Sixth, and this goes with fifth: Sometime after this movement to psychologize every li’l problem, was another movement in which you had to “speak truth to power” anytime someone said something politically incorrect. Rolling your eyes, saying “what a dummy,” and going about your business, was no longer acceptable. You had to get in people’s faces about things — “Excuse me, I don’t think that’s an appropriate expression to use to describe persons of color.” So of course when your woman cheats on you you have to let her know what you think of it. With your fists.

    Isn’t it funny? The effort was to make society more civilized. We did every single thing the “progressives” asked us to do. And here we are, at least the “big we”…punching women. Wouldn’t it be great fun, trying to explain that to a Knight from Arthur’s Round Table who’d been frozen for 1,500 years, how this makes us more civilized? Better yet, watching one of the new-agers try to explain it. Fie, fie, forsoothe ye be to blame.