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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2009/05/08/how-does-closing-gitmo-make-us-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-18531</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guantanamo Bay 

 I personally think the President is doing the right thing by closing Guantanamo Bay. I also think the President should have made it very clear that he is not the one who made the decision that these detainees should be tried in federal court rather than a military court. The truth of the matter is that it was the US State Attorney General who made that call.
I agree with the US State Attorney General’s opinion on this matter for the following reasons:
1.  The US Military is not above the law.
2.  The US Military is bound by the US Constitution as well as International Law “The  
     Geneva Convention.”
3.  If the US Military is allowed to torture and in some cases kill detainees in direct 
     violation of the US Constitution and International Law, WE THE PEOPLE have
     have lost our freedom and all right to due process of law.
4.  If  WE THE PEOPLE allow this kind of conduct to exist in our Military, how much 
     longer would it be before WE THE PEOPLE allow this same kind of conduct to exist 
     within our State and Local Law Enforcement Agencies?  
 5.  More importantly, if  WE THE PEOPLE  allow the military to violate the Geneva 
     Convention WE THE PEOPLE would have no legitimate complaint against any 
     enemies of The United States who torture and or kill American soldiers whom they 
      have detained. 
6.   Last but not least, if the military and/or any other legally recognized Law 
      Enforcement Agency deprives any one the judicial authority to consider petitions for 
      habeas corpus relief (Terrorists or otherwise) this would allow them to Circumvent 
      the current enacted Law which states “one is innocent until proven guilty”  to now 
      mean one is “guilty until proven innocent.”   Therefore, granting them the Lawful 
      authority to deprive any one they please of their constitutional right to Due Process of 
      Law by merely declaring they are a potential terrorist.   

This is only my opinion for what it’s worth. You decide for yourself, whether we should close down Guantanamo Bay or not. 
________________________________________________________________________

 The Department of Homeland Security (HDS)  has now made it clear that a potential 
 terrorist  (Domestic Extremist)  is one who disagrees with the policies of our current Government and/or supports our US Constitution. 

￼


26 March 2009
(U) Prepared by the Strategic Analysis Group and the Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Homeland
Environment Threat Analysis Division.

(U//FOUO) Domestic Extremism Lexicon

(U) patriot movement (U//FOUO) A term used by rightwing extremists to link their beliefs to those commonly associated with the American
Revolution. The patriot movement primarily comprises
violent antigovernment groups such as militias and sovereign
citizens.
(also: Christian patriots, patriot group, Constitutionalists, 
Constitutionist)   
For further (HDS) views on Domestic Extremists go to Yahoo and type in  (U//FOUO) Domestic Extremist Lexicon.        
          
Now, under these circumstances one may assume that (HDS)  could declare any one who disagrees with our current Federal Government to be a terrorist (Domestic Extremist). Therefore, giving them the authority to arrest any one at their leisure.  “Totally disregarding their Constituional  rights. specificly the right of due process of law.”  and/or  “the right to petition government for redress of greavences”

 If the (HDS) declares any one who supports the Constitution to be a Domestic Terrorist should they be denied their constitutional rights to Due Process of Law and sent Guantanamo Bay to be tried by the Military? 

The constitution makes no destination between a Domestic terrorist and a foreign terrorist.

The constitution states  “all enemies foreign and domestic”

THINK ABOUT IT.</description>
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<p> I personally think the President is doing the right thing by closing Guantanamo Bay. I also think the President should have made it very clear that he is not the one who made the decision that these detainees should be tried in federal court rather than a military court. The truth of the matter is that it was the US State Attorney General who made that call.<br />
I agree with the US State Attorney General’s opinion on this matter for the following reasons:<br />
1.  The US Military is not above the law.<br />
2.  The US Military is bound by the US Constitution as well as International Law “The<br />
     Geneva Convention.”<br />
3.  If the US Military is allowed to torture and in some cases kill detainees in direct<br />
     violation of the US Constitution and International Law, WE THE PEOPLE have<br />
     have lost our freedom and all right to due process of law.<br />
4.  If  WE THE PEOPLE allow this kind of conduct to exist in our Military, how much<br />
     longer would it be before WE THE PEOPLE allow this same kind of conduct to exist<br />
     within our State and Local Law Enforcement Agencies?<br />
 5.  More importantly, if  WE THE PEOPLE  allow the military to violate the Geneva<br />
     Convention WE THE PEOPLE would have no legitimate complaint against any<br />
     enemies of The United States who torture and or kill American soldiers whom they<br />
      have detained.<br />
6.   Last but not least, if the military and/or any other legally recognized Law<br />
      Enforcement Agency deprives any one the judicial authority to consider petitions for<br />
      habeas corpus relief (Terrorists or otherwise) this would allow them to Circumvent<br />
      the current enacted Law which states “one is innocent until proven guilty”  to now<br />
      mean one is “guilty until proven innocent.”   Therefore, granting them the Lawful<br />
      authority to deprive any one they please of their constitutional right to Due Process of<br />
      Law by merely declaring they are a potential terrorist.   </p>
<p>This is only my opinion for what it’s worth. You decide for yourself, whether we should close down Guantanamo Bay or not.<br />
________________________________________________________________________</p>
<p> The Department of Homeland Security (HDS)  has now made it clear that a potential<br />
 terrorist  (Domestic Extremist)  is one who disagrees with the policies of our current Government and/or supports our US Constitution. </p>
<p>￼</p>
<p>26 March 2009<br />
(U) Prepared by the Strategic Analysis Group and the Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Homeland<br />
Environment Threat Analysis Division.</p>
<p>(U//FOUO) Domestic Extremism Lexicon</p>
<p>(U) patriot movement (U//FOUO) A term used by rightwing extremists to link their beliefs to those commonly associated with the American<br />
Revolution. The patriot movement primarily comprises<br />
violent antigovernment groups such as militias and sovereign<br />
citizens.<br />
(also: Christian patriots, patriot group, Constitutionalists,<br />
Constitutionist)<br />
For further (HDS) views on Domestic Extremists go to Yahoo and type in  (U//FOUO) Domestic Extremist Lexicon.        </p>
<p>Now, under these circumstances one may assume that (HDS)  could declare any one who disagrees with our current Federal Government to be a terrorist (Domestic Extremist). Therefore, giving them the authority to arrest any one at their leisure.  “Totally disregarding their Constituional  rights. specificly the right of due process of law.”  and/or  “the right to petition government for redress of greavences”</p>
<p> If the (HDS) declares any one who supports the Constitution to be a Domestic Terrorist should they be denied their constitutional rights to Due Process of Law and sent Guantanamo Bay to be tried by the Military? </p>
<p>The constitution makes no destination between a Domestic terrorist and a foreign terrorist.</p>
<p>The constitution states  “all enemies foreign and domestic”</p>
<p>THINK ABOUT IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry in Detroit</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2009/05/08/how-does-closing-gitmo-make-us-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-14845</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry in Detroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 16:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to comply with the Geneva Convention.  Most currently warehoused in Gitma are unauthorized combatants under the Geneva Convention.  As such they were entitled to a speedy court martial on apprehension and immediate execution in the field.  We could complete the processnow or we could let them go.  Personally, I&#039;m all in favor of turning them loose in Nancy Pelosi&#039;s &amp; Harry Reid&#039;s districts.  I expect people would learn very quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to comply with the Geneva Convention.  Most currently warehoused in Gitma are unauthorized combatants under the Geneva Convention.  As such they were entitled to a speedy court martial on apprehension and immediate execution in the field.  We could complete the processnow or we could let them go.  Personally, I&#8217;m all in favor of turning them loose in Nancy Pelosi&#8217;s &amp; Harry Reid&#8217;s districts.  I expect people would learn very quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Rignerd</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2009/05/08/how-does-closing-gitmo-make-us-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-14809</link>
		<dc:creator>Rignerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keeping Gitmo open makes us safer because we have a place to keep these terrorists and interrogate them and extract more information from them.  It also will allow us to hold tribunals and determine the extent of punishment, if any, that they deserve.

Holding enemy combatants until the end of hostilities has happened in every war that I know of.  The trials at Nuremberg happened after the war, they held the National Socialists for trial until they had investigated and determined the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeping Gitmo open makes us safer because we have a place to keep these terrorists and interrogate them and extract more information from them.  It also will allow us to hold tribunals and determine the extent of punishment, if any, that they deserve.</p>
<p>Holding enemy combatants until the end of hostilities has happened in every war that I know of.  The trials at Nuremberg happened after the war, they held the National Socialists for trial until they had investigated and determined the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirty Democrats &#187; How Does Closing Gitmo Make Us Safe?</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2009/05/08/how-does-closing-gitmo-make-us-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-14803</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirty Democrats &#187; How Does Closing Gitmo Make Us Safe?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 04:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2009/05/08/how-does-closing-gitmo-make-us-safe/comment-page-1/#comment-14802</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 20:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what this video is saying, is that if we didn&#039;t have Gitmo, then we would have been forced to let those terrorists go free, or somehow been unable to capture them in the first place?

Closing Gitmo doesn&#039;t make us &#039;safer&#039; neither does leaving it open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what this video is saying, is that if we didn&#8217;t have Gitmo, then we would have been forced to let those terrorists go free, or somehow been unable to capture them in the first place?</p>
<p>Closing Gitmo doesn&#8217;t make us &#8216;safer&#8217; neither does leaving it open.</p>
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