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		<title>By: Mat</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2009/05/28/no-more-americanization/comment-page-1/#comment-14998</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 13:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stix,

Glynn is a left wing nut.  Since the left wants to actively destroy this country because it&#039;s a roadblock to communist paradise, they always try to divide and conquer.  Dismantle the social fabric in this country and what do you get?  As I said earlier, essentially an Austro-Hungarian Empire.  There are only a few things that hold this country together (it&#039;s surprisingly more fragile than most people think).  Take them away and you can significantly alter the cultural landscape of this country.  That is what&#039;s at stake right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stix,</p>
<p>Glynn is a left wing nut.  Since the left wants to actively destroy this country because it&#8217;s a roadblock to communist paradise, they always try to divide and conquer.  Dismantle the social fabric in this country and what do you get?  As I said earlier, essentially an Austro-Hungarian Empire.  There are only a few things that hold this country together (it&#8217;s surprisingly more fragile than most people think).  Take them away and you can significantly alter the cultural landscape of this country.  That is what&#8217;s at stake right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2009/05/28/no-more-americanization/comment-page-1/#comment-14997</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 13:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avoiding the melee, thanks for telling us how to pronounce your name.  I&#039;ve been lurking here for quite awhile and in my own head I&#039;ve been saying Cloo-tee-ay.  I&#039;ve spent quite a bit of time working in Montreal, and it was my best guess.

My own forebears had their names Americanized -- how many American can pronounce Polish names?  Heck, my grandfather&#039;s middle name is Ellis.  He liked it so much, he gave it to my dad, too.

I generally pronounce unfamiliar names using English rules.  If I learn otherwise, I&#039;ll try to use their preferred pronunciation as a courtesy.  But if I guess wrongly, don&#039;t get your boxers in a bunch.  I don&#039;t get my dander up when an immigrant calls me Zhayfree.

Can&#039;t we all just get along?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avoiding the melee, thanks for telling us how to pronounce your name.  I&#8217;ve been lurking here for quite awhile and in my own head I&#8217;ve been saying Cloo-tee-ay.  I&#8217;ve spent quite a bit of time working in Montreal, and it was my best guess.</p>
<p>My own forebears had their names Americanized &#8212; how many American can pronounce Polish names?  Heck, my grandfather&#8217;s middle name is Ellis.  He liked it so much, he gave it to my dad, too.</p>
<p>I generally pronounce unfamiliar names using English rules.  If I learn otherwise, I&#8217;ll try to use their preferred pronunciation as a courtesy.  But if I guess wrongly, don&#8217;t get your boxers in a bunch.  I don&#8217;t get my dander up when an immigrant calls me Zhayfree.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t we all just get along?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 06:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel Lucas has a post in her blog, about a supervisor in a Mansfield, Texas (close to Dallas) hospital who hung an American flag in her cubicle only to have another supervisor (who had emigrated to this country 14 years ago) protest about being &quot;offended&quot;.

A commenter replied, 
&lt;i&gt;&quot;If you moved here because life is better here … &lt;b&gt;QUIT trying to make it more like the place you LEFT&lt;/b&gt;.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel Lucas has a post in her blog, about a supervisor in a Mansfield, Texas (close to Dallas) hospital who hung an American flag in her cubicle only to have another supervisor (who had emigrated to this country 14 years ago) protest about being &#8220;offended&#8221;.</p>
<p>A commenter replied,<br />
<i>&#8220;If you moved here because life is better here … <b>QUIT trying to make it more like the place you LEFT</b>.&#8221;</i><br />
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		<title>By: Stix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please tell me how this is nonsense.  At most people would stay in the Irish or Italian sections of big cities for 1 or 2 generations and then would integrate into society as Americans.  If you can not see that, then I feel sorry for you.  The American of my grandparents is gone.  Thank God they are not alive to see what has happened to this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please tell me how this is nonsense.  At most people would stay in the Irish or Italian sections of big cities for 1 or 2 generations and then would integrate into society as Americans.  If you can not see that, then I feel sorry for you.  The American of my grandparents is gone.  Thank God they are not alive to see what has happened to this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Glynn W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glynn W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stix,

this is towering nonsense.

Even a brief look at American history will reveal that several flavors weren&#039;t traditionally allowed in the &quot;mixing pot&quot;.  People didn&#039;t seek a &quot;subculture&quot;, they were tossed into one.  

Just because the melting pot didn&#039;t much take to my kind, doesn&#039;t mean my people didn&#039;t bleed and die for this country.

My passport ain&#039;t going anywhere, even if I like to keep a little flavor in my vocal infections.

gw



okay, if you are born in D.C. (a territory of the United States) can you then, &quot;move to America&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stix,</p>
<p>this is towering nonsense.</p>
<p>Even a brief look at American history will reveal that several flavors weren&#8217;t traditionally allowed in the &#8220;mixing pot&#8221;.  People didn&#8217;t seek a &#8220;subculture&#8221;, they were tossed into one.  </p>
<p>Just because the melting pot didn&#8217;t much take to my kind, doesn&#8217;t mean my people didn&#8217;t bleed and die for this country.</p>
<p>My passport ain&#8217;t going anywhere, even if I like to keep a little flavor in my vocal infections.</p>
<p>gw</p>
<p>okay, if you are born in D.C. (a territory of the United States) can you then, &#8220;move to America&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Stix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glynn

The whole point is that the PC police and the Balkanization of the United States is happening.  As I said before I am a little of everything.   I have relatives that have been here from around the time  of the Mayflower and then my grandpa and grandma on my Dad&#039;s side were directly from Poland.  But they all assimilated into the culture and became part of the Melting Pot.  Not part of the German Americans, Polish American, Norwegian Americans, they became Americans.
But we have too many that do not look to become Americans, but part of a sub culture.  African American, Mexican American, and so on.   That is not what this country is about, it is about everyone joining together in this big experiment called the United States of America.   Not Red or Blue or whatever identity anyone wants to put on you.

I am an American that has many different cultures in my blood, even some Jamaican if you believe that President Harding&#039;s mom was a Octoroon.  But I am an American first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glynn</p>
<p>The whole point is that the PC police and the Balkanization of the United States is happening.  As I said before I am a little of everything.   I have relatives that have been here from around the time  of the Mayflower and then my grandpa and grandma on my Dad&#8217;s side were directly from Poland.  But they all assimilated into the culture and became part of the Melting Pot.  Not part of the German Americans, Polish American, Norwegian Americans, they became Americans.<br />
But we have too many that do not look to become Americans, but part of a sub culture.  African American, Mexican American, and so on.   That is not what this country is about, it is about everyone joining together in this big experiment called the United States of America.   Not Red or Blue or whatever identity anyone wants to put on you.</p>
<p>I am an American that has many different cultures in my blood, even some Jamaican if you believe that President Harding&#8217;s mom was a Octoroon.  But I am an American first.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Melissa Clouthier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Melissa Clouthier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 22:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not if his name is Glynn. LOL And Michigan is not a territory of the United States. It is one of the United States. Again. You are willfully missing the point. It&#039;s not about Puerto Rico being another country, which it is not, since it&#039;s an American Territory with a Governor. 

The post was about identity politics over being an American. It was about how people are now more deferential to their ethnicity, race, gender, and yes territory or country, than they are to unifying ideals embodied in the American culture like freedom, and the colors red, white &amp; blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not if his name is Glynn. LOL And Michigan is not a territory of the United States. It is one of the United States. Again. You are willfully missing the point. It&#8217;s not about Puerto Rico being another country, which it is not, since it&#8217;s an American Territory with a Governor. </p>
<p>The post was about identity politics over being an American. It was about how people are now more deferential to their ethnicity, race, gender, and yes territory or country, than they are to unifying ideals embodied in the American culture like freedom, and the colors red, white &#038; blue.</p>
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		<title>By: Glynn W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glynn W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can a kid from Michigan come to America?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can a kid from Michigan come to America?</p>
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		<title>By: RightGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 20:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn you, Kloo-tee-ay. Damn yoooooooou!

RG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn you, Kloo-tee-ay. Damn yoooooooou!</p>
<p>RG</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Melissa Clouthier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Melissa Clouthier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 20:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummmmm Glynn,

Are you being willfully obtuse? Are you trying to miss the point?

A Puerto Rican is an American citizen who cannot vote for President from the island because it&#039;s an unincorprated territory.

But that wasn&#039;t the point of the post. At. All.

The point of the post is that where people once wanted to talk, sound and be American, now people seem to want to talk, sound and be what-ever-their-country-of-origin is and enjoy all the benefits of America. To enjoy it&#039;s blessings, essentially, while pissing on it at the same time.

How do you like this idea:

I think that my experiencek as a Russian male gives me a unique perspective on the law.

And I say it with good dose of moral superiority and Russian throatiness while speaking Russian at home and making my wife wear a babushka.

It&#039;s the difference between having an American-centric verses an ethno-centric life. It is a question of culture and where one puts one&#039;s pride.

While I enjoy listening to the bagpipes and have gone to a Scottish games day, I do not speak with a brogue nor do I consider my Scottish-English womanly heritage as something that makes me uniquely qualified for anything. If my kid wanted to be clad in a kilt with my family&#039;s Tartan plaid to his wedding he would be welcome to knock himself out.

Still, I&#039;m American. I&#039;m an American of Scottish-English descent. The big deal is that I&#039;m an American. I enjoy shortbread, too. I also enjoy Taquitos. 

And since this is America and all races, creeds and cultures are represented, I&#039;m free to do so.

P.S. If I met Ms. Sotomayor, I would say her name the way she&#039;d want it pronounced. To do anything else, when I know the correct way, would be offensive. My point, though, was about the greater cultural emphasis.

P.P.S. Bush is no longer in charge. But Biden is fun to make sport of--have at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummmmm Glynn,</p>
<p>Are you being willfully obtuse? Are you trying to miss the point?</p>
<p>A Puerto Rican is an American citizen who cannot vote for President from the island because it&#8217;s an unincorprated territory.</p>
<p>But that wasn&#8217;t the point of the post. At. All.</p>
<p>The point of the post is that where people once wanted to talk, sound and be American, now people seem to want to talk, sound and be what-ever-their-country-of-origin is and enjoy all the benefits of America. To enjoy it&#8217;s blessings, essentially, while pissing on it at the same time.</p>
<p>How do you like this idea:</p>
<p>I think that my experiencek as a Russian male gives me a unique perspective on the law.</p>
<p>And I say it with good dose of moral superiority and Russian throatiness while speaking Russian at home and making my wife wear a babushka.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the difference between having an American-centric verses an ethno-centric life. It is a question of culture and where one puts one&#8217;s pride.</p>
<p>While I enjoy listening to the bagpipes and have gone to a Scottish games day, I do not speak with a brogue nor do I consider my Scottish-English womanly heritage as something that makes me uniquely qualified for anything. If my kid wanted to be clad in a kilt with my family&#8217;s Tartan plaid to his wedding he would be welcome to knock himself out.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m American. I&#8217;m an American of Scottish-English descent. The big deal is that I&#8217;m an American. I enjoy shortbread, too. I also enjoy Taquitos. </p>
<p>And since this is America and all races, creeds and cultures are represented, I&#8217;m free to do so.</p>
<p>P.S. If I met Ms. Sotomayor, I would say her name the way she&#8217;d want it pronounced. To do anything else, when I know the correct way, would be offensive. My point, though, was about the greater cultural emphasis.</p>
<p>P.P.S. Bush is no longer in charge. But Biden is fun to make sport of&#8211;have at it.</p>
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