I have a question. Chastity Bono has been “out” as a lesbian for a good many years. She sleeps with women.

Now she’s going to be surgically transformed into a “he.”

Will “he” still be attracted to women? And if “he” does, won’t that mean he’s “straight?”

Just wondering.

We pay for it in Canada. However, there is an average 9-hour emergency room wait and 7 week cancer treatment wait in Canada, too. I would rather have more skilled oncologists and ER nurses than doctors who can perform sex changes on my dime. But that’s just me, a taxpayer. What do I know?

RG

Well obviously few people are going to want to pay taxes for this sort of nonsense, but I’m sure we’ll end up doing so anyway. I realize I’m a big meany for saying that.

filioscotia, Chastity won’t be a “he” no matter what a doctor does. It’s about as silly as the media saying that the “man” who became pregnant making history. A man cannot create a kid. It’s biologically impossible. Therefore, that person is still a woman in the deepest sense. Same thing with Chastity. Yes, I’m sure I’ll get a ton of flak for this, but it’s not like I care. I still think they’re a bunch of fruitcakes and no one can tell me otherwise.

The left wants to create a society of totally androgenous people. In 150 years, this country will probably be totally hermaphroditic by then. Of course, I’m sure the left will want to have reproduction by budding instead of birthing at that point.

Trish, what in the name of bat guano is that last paragraph supposed to mean?

Batzooks, Trish, that “explanation” made as little sense as you first attempt.
Get real, or sane, or something. Celebrity cosmetic surgery isn’t going to gobble up our tax money and leave little Timmy to waste away on the door step.
The rich will continue to buy their unnecessary care from celebrity surgeons and will continue to pay out of their own overstuffed pockets.

I’m not smoking much of anything and you don’t sound like the type that would be offering to share.
Trish, what are you thinking? Just for the halibut, do you think that Jolie and Pitt are donating a million bucks for Pakistani refugees because they expect to live in the tents when the refugees are finished with them? Yes, most people are selfish most of the time. Sometimes it’s different.
There is still, after your smoke has cleared, no reason to say that cosmetic surgery is going to be performed ahead of, and in place of, necessary surgery.
Removing profit going to middlemen isn’t going to inevitably produce that outcome and if you remain certain that it will, please do us the courtesy of explaining why it must.

Fuster–
Do you really suppose that the honest charitable actions of some celebrities mean that no celebrity is selfish? Again, I say to you: Grow up.

Removing the middleman is a good idea. Socialized medicine does not do that. Socialized medicine creates MORE middlemen, sucking up the resources that are supposed to go to help people.

I’ve dealt with government from both sides, as a government employee, and as an employee of a medical organization that dealt with the government. It doesn’t work.

As to your assertion that cosmetic surgery for the supporters of this plan will not come before necessary medical procedures, I can only say that I hope and pray that you are correct. However, the example that I cited was a real example; people in Britain who are in need take second place to the rich who support these government subsidies (and could easily pay for their own surgery).

I hope you’ll stop and think about this, but I fear that you will not.

“Now tell me why our government control just absolutely, positively has to be just like the British model, rather than resembling the Bulgarian, Chinese or Swedish. Or maybe just turning out to be as uniquely American as all our other stuff is.”

I don’t know fuster, perhaps it’s the left’s orgasmic desire to be just like the Europeans in every way? Because, you know, they’re just oh so much more sophisticated than us backwoods rubes…

Whether or not Britain or Sweden has the resources that we have is irrelevant. What the Obama administration specifically and what leftists in general want to do is to create a health care system that is modeled heavily if not entirely on the European model. Of course, that’s not the only European thing they want. They also love the idea of us having no military, no guns and a EU style technocracy for a government. The sooner you get the people out of having a say, the easier it is to implement control. And the scary thing about all of this is that the left could actually pull this off.

In the end, the health care issue is another power grab by the state to control our lives. If everyone’s sucking off the government teat, then the latter has the ability to control. End of story. It’s all about power, and the left wants the whole shebang.

fuster,

Mock me all you want, but it’s clear who’s the long term thinker and who’s not looking five minutes ahead of time. Talk to me a few years down the road, ok? Thanks…

Spoken like a true troll…

“Mat, if you feel that I’m mocking you unfairly, you could have avoided it by throwing some more relevant material into the post you put up as a response to mine.”

I never said it was unfair. Life’s unfair, so people need to get used to it. That’s one reason why I’m not a big fan of egalitarianism. It’s pretty silly. As for relevance, what I said was entirely relevant, but as several posters already stated, you missed it entirely in your haste to push your leftist agenda. It’s not my fault that you’re clueless.

“Instead of discussing the problems involved in health care, you rant about the rapacious desires of the left to use health care provision as a form of social control.”

I did discuss the problems, but I also put some generalized statements because they were, well, relevant. Of course health care is a form of social control. What puzzles me is how you cannot see it. You are telling people that they cannot make choices of their own and that government will do it for them. How clear can I make that? That is societal control.

“Perhaps you don’t understand the situation. Perhaps you do. Either way, there’s a shipload more to it than a simple cry of “bad lefties want control”.”

Actually, I understand it all too well, hence my above comments. And yes, at the root of it is control. Always has been, always will be.

“There is a massive amount of societal resources in health care, both in cash and people, and government has been neck-deep in it for at least forty years.”

Yeah, no kidding and how has it helped us? Not a bit. In fact, we can barely pay for it as it is now. So what are we going to do? We’re going to expand it exponentially. Maybe you’ve forgotten where money comes from, but how exactly are we supposed to pay for something that will be more expensive than what we have now, and with no money? We are in massive debt right now and it’s not getting any better. That means we can raise the money two ways: higher taxes (which means more money and therefore more control goes to the government) or printing it, which will cause massive inflation and will devalue the dollar.

BTW, this is what I meant by short-term vs. long-term thinking. Like I said, we’ll see who’s right in a few years. Whether it’s fair or not is irrelevant.

“Mat, I doubt that we’ll be able to judge who’s right from experience as I doubt that a real “left-wing agenda” reform will be enacted.
So we’ll have to keep griping and grumping.”

Hey, you’re the one demanding proof from me and I gave it. And now, like your postings on the “Sen.” Boxer section, you’re backpedalling. It’s not griping and grumping; it’s factual. And you know, as well as I, that we do not have the money to pay for this stuff. Medicare and Medicaid work to some extent because the people who cannot pay are backed by the people who are able to (why do you think hospital bills are so astronomical?). You go to the doctor and you’re paying not only for yourself, but for someone else who is unable to. And the Left will compound the problem by forcing everyone, whether they go to the doctor or not, to pay for everyone who cannot do so. Yeah, I can see how well that will turn out, especially when government runs things so well. Long term vs. short term…

fuster,

I’ve given you the facts. Take them as you will. You won’t accept anything I say because I’m a conservative. That makes you pretty childish and certainly narrow-minded coming from an ideology that’s so big on being “open-minded.”

You’re really no different than a number of leftists that have blogged here and I fail to see why there should be continued discussion with someone who’s only argument seems to be “Can’t hear you, Can’t see you, nyah nyah!” Therefore, I’ve decided that holding a discussion with you is utterly pointless. We’ll see what happens with this in the future, and I’m betting I’ll be vindicated. However, by all means, hold on dear to your leftist ideology. I’m sure it’ll be cold comfort when we’re all living just above the poverty line.

I do not think this is for attention. Just look at the weight gain (which bothers me more than the transition) there has been a troubled person ever since the death of Sunny.