Comments on: Iran: Blood Is Spilled

By: Mat

Mat — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:36:28 +0000

Melissa,

My take on the Iran situation:

The protests are mainly by students. Without support from the rest of the people, these protests will be crushed. Most of the rural areas are extremely conservative and pretty much balance off the urban students. Heck, that’s basically what the Basij are; rural volunteers.

Secondly, I think Obama should have said something to split Iran further. I say stir the crapstorm. A major civil war means that Iran will lose time in building their bomb while trying to quell major dissent. However, I don’t really have much sympathy for those people because, let’s face it, they don’t really want a liberal, western style society. They want to keep Islam at the center of the state, just not so much. So let’s not read too much into this. We make this mistake all the time, and we always get burned (think Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti, even Iraq) in the end.

So yes, Obama should have made a “feel good” statement (big mistake on his part) to help the students out, perhaps turning the protests into something a little more. It’s cheap and it costs us little. But anything else, forget it (unless you’re willing to send troops there). We have enough on our plate as it is.

By: fuster

fuster — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:03:20 +0000

Naqamel, at least that’s a rational start. Why was the funding zeroed out?
How does that indicate support?
Do you have any idea if we’re spending much larger amounts of money in Iran and funding our efforts from budgetary allocations that are not transparent? Many people assume that we have been and are still doing so. Most of the funding figures for opposition to the Iranian regime that I’ve seen are at least ten times the number cited in your link. I haven’t heard about any other cessations in funding and one could speculate that Obama has simply taken away the token “aboveboard” programs.
Unless you’ve got more, what you offer is much.
I’ll be happy to look at anything that you have because I’m unable to find anything else to support your statement by googling.

By: Naqamel

Naqamel — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:09:16 +0000

Support for the regime? How about cutting funding to ZERO for promoting Democracy in Iran? Need more, google it yourself and learn something.

By: fuster

fuster — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:37:30 +0000

Either show the support that Obama is giving to the Iranian government or peel another banana or type and peel simultaneously.

By: Naqamel

Naqamel — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:54:06 +0000

Should you be writing idiotic criticisms while people are dying?
Couldn’t you have left that third-grade nonsense about ice cream out of this?

Shouldn’t Obama the Pussy quit supporting the Regime in Iran?

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By: Paul Gordon

Paul Gordon — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:57:02 +0000

What gives me hope for this situation is that the horror stories turning up do NOT seem to end with the protesters running for their lives and giving up completely. The casualties appear to stem from them continuing their resistance.

The first time a policeman raised his riot stick and stalked towards a protester, expecting him to run as usual, but the protester just stood there and looked back at him, and it was the policeman that backed down and walked away, was probably the start of a fire that has taken on a life of its’ own.

The biggest problem with being an oppressor depending on fear, is “GOD HELP YOU” if they ever STOP being afraid of you.

Yeah, the security forces are reacting, but it’s damned hard to stuff the djinni back into the bottle; ain’t it?

By: fuster

fuster — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:00:28 +0000

Should you be writing idiotic criticisms while people are dying?
Couldn’t you have left that third-grade nonsense about ice cream out of this?