Comments on: I Believe It Matters

By: Mat

Mat — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:06:23 +0000

Naq,

It’s nice to see that you finally saw the light regarding fuster. It’s pointless arguing with someone who can’t stick to an argument.

To be honest, liberal fascism is a contradiction because fascism is pretty conservative. However, by all means slap on communist, since they’re always tyrannical. Who’s ever heard of a truly democratic communist government?

Mr. Chuckie,

No, the country isn’t true-blue socialist yet, but it’s getting there. I hope you understand the concept of “implication.”

By: Mr. Chuckles

Mr. Chuckles — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:49:39 +0000

Just as an aside to this little pissing contest – For those of you who think the country has gone socialist: The government now controls .21%, yes that’s POINT 21% of private industry. Sweet Jesus, run for the hills – the socialists have taken over!!!!!

By: fuster

fuster — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:15:05 +0000

You just keep on believing that liberals are fascists, because Jonah Goldberg says so, and keep on not reading that Mussolini defines them as opposites.
I’ll keep thinking that you’re nuts, but your insistence has gotten me to order a copy of the book.
You have another banana and I’ll do whatever it is that trolls do, Naq.

By: Naqamel

Naqamel — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:57:50 +0000

You keep telling yourself that the words of Mussolini having less bearing than those of Goldberg,

I keep trying to tell you that Goldberg uses the words and writings of Mussolini (and other fascists, and historians) to prove his case that fascism lives on the Left.

that writers contemporary to the Italian fascists didn’t understand what thy saw and heard,

Goldberg points out and cites editorials in the NY Times where the Left in this country *GUSHED* about how great they thought Mussolini was.

and that only Goldberg gets to define fascism.

Wrong again.

Nobody can argue with that, now can they?

You can’t, because… you haven’t read the book.

Post again if you want, fuster. You’ve exposed yourself as nothing more than a troll, and I’ve wasted enough time on you.

If you think you’re somehow smart enough to discuss the contents of a book you refuse to read (dismissing it with an ad hominem fallacy against the author, I might add), then there’s really no hope for you.

By: fuster

fuster — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:27:50 +0000

You keep telling yourself that the words of Mussolini having less bearing than those of Goldberg, that writers contemporary to the Italian fascists didn’t understand what thy saw and heard, and that only Goldberg gets to define fascism.
Nobody can argue with that, now can they?

By: Naqamel

Naqamel — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:32:04 +0000

you look to the writings of the fascists and to works of historians documenting the actions of the fascists.

Goldberg did, and to a much greater depth than you realize, because you haven’t read the book.

Goldberg isn’t authoritive.

You haven’t read the book, how can you possibly know if this statement is true?

By: fuster

fuster — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:24:10 +0000

Sorry, Naq, about the fascist ideas concerning race and national identity, you look to the writings of the fascists and to works of historians documenting the actions of the fascists. Goldberg isn’t authoritive.
But I suppose you’re attempting to critique fascist thought without having even looked at “The Doctrine of Fascism” attributed (sometimes)to Mussolini.
Perhaps that might explain how you can swallow Goldberg’s pap and think yourself well-served.

By: Naqamel

Naqamel — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:07:49 +0000

Race, National identity and underpinnings of economic philosophy as noted in comment 8.

The first two were traits of the National Socialists in Germany, not the Fascisti in Italy. Had you read the book, you would have already known that.

The third? You’re completely wrong on. See: GM Takeover, Chrysler takeover, and the upcoming attempt to take over health care.

By: fuster

fuster — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:03:57 +0000

Race, ational identity and underpinnings of economic philosophy as noted in comment 8.
Are you commenting on my comments without having read them?

By: Naqamel

Naqamel — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:57:56 +0000

Thanks for explaining your understanding of the way he gets past the differences between liberalism and fascism that I noted.

You didn’t note any.