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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;d Prefer Unretouched Photos Of Women</title>
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		<title>By: O Bloody Hell</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2009/10/08/id-prefer-unretouched-photos-of-women/comment-page-1/#comment-17223</link>
		<dc:creator>O Bloody Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This kind of retouching gives men an unrealistic standard of what to expect from a woman even as it gives women, who care a great deal about their looks, an impossible standard of perfection that they’re expected to work towards.&lt;/i&gt;

This kind of thinking shows an unrealistic idea of what &lt;b&gt;men&lt;/b&gt; are capable of.

Stop assuming we&#039;re idiots and don&#039;t know the effect of MAKEUP/STYLING ALONE on a woman.

Do you get confused by a comb-over? 

Funny, &#039;cause we don&#039;t get confused by a fancy equivalent.


Guys don&#039;t have an unrealistic expectation of women and their looks. For the most part, we&#039;re rational and far less prone to let our &quot;feeling&quot; pull the wool over our eyes. And any guy with a clue has seen &quot;before and after&quot; pics of models, celebrities, and so on. That is to say &quot;real world appearance&quot; vs. &quot;photo studio looks&quot;.

I can&#039;t speak for how such pictures affect women, but don&#039;t try and blame us because, by that claim, women are too stupid to properly access their own self-image. That&#039;s your problem, ladies, not ours.

Sure, every guy wants to land a supermodel. But when push comes to shove, every mature guy has learned the primary rule of beauty: 
&lt;b&gt;No matter how heartstoppingly gorgeous she is, no matter how smokin&#039; a body she has, there is some guy, somewhere, who is &lt;i&gt;sick of her shit&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/b&gt;

Sure, there are guys who only want trophy wives. &lt;i&gt;Do you, as a female, give a rat&#039;s ass about such shallow idiots?&lt;/i&gt; Do you really, really think that such a bozo, given a &quot;realistic&quot; expectation of how a woman should look is going to give you a serious, lasting relationship that isn&#039;t going to end when you turn 35-40 and he can turn you in on a newer model?

Most guys with a clue are happy with a &quot;realistically&quot; attractive woman who cares about him and works to make him happy (in response to the same from him). 

Guess what, ladies? &lt;i&gt;Those guys spend far, far more time alone on a Friday night than the biggest dickheads out there.&lt;/i&gt;

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&lt;i&gt;And it&#039;s not the guys making those choices.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This kind of retouching gives men an unrealistic standard of what to expect from a woman even as it gives women, who care a great deal about their looks, an impossible standard of perfection that they’re expected to work towards.</i></p>
<p>This kind of thinking shows an unrealistic idea of what <b>men</b> are capable of.</p>
<p>Stop assuming we&#8217;re idiots and don&#8217;t know the effect of MAKEUP/STYLING ALONE on a woman.</p>
<p>Do you get confused by a comb-over? </p>
<p>Funny, &#8217;cause we don&#8217;t get confused by a fancy equivalent.</p>
<p>Guys don&#8217;t have an unrealistic expectation of women and their looks. For the most part, we&#8217;re rational and far less prone to let our &#8220;feeling&#8221; pull the wool over our eyes. And any guy with a clue has seen &#8220;before and after&#8221; pics of models, celebrities, and so on. That is to say &#8220;real world appearance&#8221; vs. &#8220;photo studio looks&#8221;.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for how such pictures affect women, but don&#8217;t try and blame us because, by that claim, women are too stupid to properly access their own self-image. That&#8217;s your problem, ladies, not ours.</p>
<p>Sure, every guy wants to land a supermodel. But when push comes to shove, every mature guy has learned the primary rule of beauty:<br />
<b>No matter how heartstoppingly gorgeous she is, no matter how smokin&#8217; a body she has, there is some guy, somewhere, who is <i>sick of her shit</i>.</b></p>
<p>Sure, there are guys who only want trophy wives. <i>Do you, as a female, give a rat&#8217;s ass about such shallow idiots?</i> Do you really, really think that such a bozo, given a &#8220;realistic&#8221; expectation of how a woman should look is going to give you a serious, lasting relationship that isn&#8217;t going to end when you turn 35-40 and he can turn you in on a newer model?</p>
<p>Most guys with a clue are happy with a &#8220;realistically&#8221; attractive woman who cares about him and works to make him happy (in response to the same from him). </p>
<p>Guess what, ladies? <i>Those guys spend far, far more time alone on a Friday night than the biggest dickheads out there.</i></p>
<p>===</p>
<p><i>And it&#8217;s not the guys making those choices.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Bender</title>
		<link>http://melissablogs.com/2009/10/08/id-prefer-unretouched-photos-of-women/comment-page-1/#comment-16872</link>
		<dc:creator>Bender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and no.

Not only retouching photos, but women wearing gobs of make-up -- both need to go.  Most women are, in fact, more beautiful in a more natural state, that is, with a few of their blemishes showing.  It makes them more &quot;real.&quot;

On the other hand . . . I&#039;ve seen some pics of celebrities without any touch-ups or other enhancements and, frankly, some of them are, well, maybe not hideous, but some of them are . . . OK, they are hideous.  And since the age of hi-def TV, we now get to see every pock-mark and hairy mole that they have in vivid detail.  Yikes.  Not all celebs, mind you, but enough to learn that the beautiful people are not all that beautiful.  

So, for them, by all means, retouch.  And then, retouch again.  Besides, this is hardly something new.  They&#039;ve been doing it since the 50s (Playboy certainly did), so men&#039;s minds are already warped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and no.</p>
<p>Not only retouching photos, but women wearing gobs of make-up &#8212; both need to go.  Most women are, in fact, more beautiful in a more natural state, that is, with a few of their blemishes showing.  It makes them more &#8220;real.&#8221;</p>
<p>On the other hand . . . I&#8217;ve seen some pics of celebrities without any touch-ups or other enhancements and, frankly, some of them are, well, maybe not hideous, but some of them are . . . OK, they are hideous.  And since the age of hi-def TV, we now get to see every pock-mark and hairy mole that they have in vivid detail.  Yikes.  Not all celebs, mind you, but enough to learn that the beautiful people are not all that beautiful.  </p>
<p>So, for them, by all means, retouch.  And then, retouch again.  Besides, this is hardly something new.  They&#8217;ve been doing it since the 50s (Playboy certainly did), so men&#8217;s minds are already warped.</p>
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		<title>By: DarcsFalcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarcsFalcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They make her look like Jack Skellington&#039;s sister.</description>
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		<title>By: democratsarefascists</title>
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		<dc:creator>democratsarefascists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is disgusting. Look at her arms.

If it wasn&#039;t &#039;shopped, I&#039;d be fronting a campaign to get her to a hospital.

I hope women now realize they don&#039;t have to look like that. I&#039;ll take a real woman over airbrushed every time. Hips, waist, curves, it&#039;s all good. Plastic surgery doesn&#039;t bother me, if that&#039;s what she wants, but implants have always seemed an unnecessary risk to me.

Stay healthy, develop your mind, don&#039;t look to the media for validation and you&#039;ll never have to worry about how you look - to anyone who is going to matter, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is disgusting. Look at her arms.</p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t &#8216;shopped, I&#8217;d be fronting a campaign to get her to a hospital.</p>
<p>I hope women now realize they don&#8217;t have to look like that. I&#8217;ll take a real woman over airbrushed every time. Hips, waist, curves, it&#8217;s all good. Plastic surgery doesn&#8217;t bother me, if that&#8217;s what she wants, but implants have always seemed an unnecessary risk to me.</p>
<p>Stay healthy, develop your mind, don&#8217;t look to the media for validation and you&#8217;ll never have to worry about how you look &#8211; to anyone who is going to matter, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Stick Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stick Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That someone would even think that image of a stick-thin, starving woman would be appealing to any one is astounding.  How grotesque!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That someone would even think that image of a stick-thin, starving woman would be appealing to any one is astounding.  How grotesque!</p>
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