Another Terrorist Dry Run: Part II Interview With Witness Dr. Keith Robinson–UPDATED

December 3, 2009 / 10:37 am • By Dr. Melissa Clouthier

Yesterday, I shared the account given by Tedd Petruna about Air Tran Flight 297 from Atlanta to Houston Hobby. Today, I interviewed Dr. Keith Robinson, Corps Commander of the Houston Regional  Community Chaplain Corps, as he actually took the flight, with the Arab men after Tedd and many other passengers got off the plane, once it was clear that both the TSA and Air Tran were going to allow the threatening passengers to stay on the flight.

Over at RedInk Texas, you’ll see how distorted the actual news accounts were of this incident. This incident was not just a matter of an unruly passenger refusing to hang up on a phone call. The whole flight crew refused to fly and had to be replaced.

Air Tran 297 is not the first time this sort of thing has happened. Recall the Flying Imams controversy where the men sued the airlines and passengers and won a settlement from the airlines.

This circumstance occurred shortly after Major Hasan killed twelve soldiers at Fort Hood. The passengers were sensitized to a terrorist threat before the flight.

Dr. Robinson gave his first-hand account [find link here], typing up his impressions during the flight:
The flight crew hurriedly walked past me leaving the plane with their baggage.  The flight
attendants were emotionally shaken, red faced, in tears and were sobbing.  A new flight crew
was ordered for the flight.  All remaining passengers awaited their next crew, unsure of the
ultimate destiny of this flight.

When I boarded the plane the air was tense and filled with emotion.  Many of the passengers
were obviously upset and at wits end.  Often passengers would look back then forward to

assess any change in the suspicious activities of the 10 hostile Middle Eastern passengers.
Although my seat was 22D I moved to the back of the plane to gain a better view of any actions
that might take place in front of me.  Some of the Middle Eastern men were in the Business
Class area and the remainder was seated in the back of the plane. They spoke only Arabic and I
did not understand what they were saying although a strange burst of laughter would erupt as
they spoke.

His conclusion from the plane flight was thus:
Obviously, in Atlanta the officials from Air Tran had been placed in a difficult ethnic position  that directly resulted from the inappropriate, threatening actions of these 12 Middle Eastern men.  And, obviously vacillating between appropriately removing these men permanently off the plane and sequestering them for the threats they made toward these passengers on the flight…or taking the “politically correct” action of taking them off, questioning them and then putting most of them back on the plane…Air Tran took the easy way out and put most of them back on board.  As in most dilemma situations both parties are never equally affected by the resulting action.  By putting 10 of the men back on the plane, Air Tran decided that it was better to emotionally traumatize each and every one of the remaining passengers on Air Tran Flight 297 for the remainder of the flight.  They had a chance to remove the offenders…but didn’t.

Please listen to the podcast for a 45 minute detailed account. The first many minutes are Dr. Robinson giving his background. He gets into the meat of the experience around the 20 minute mark.

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UPDATED:

Ace has this analysis:

They seemed to make every effort to draw attention to themselves, which makes me think it’s unlikely this is really a terror-deal, or even a dry run for terror. Perhaps “probing,” but again, they seemed to really go out of their way to get some TSA lovin’.

Not necessarily terror, then, but the demonstrations of a thin-skinned bunch determined to fuck with the legitimate fears of infidels. And prove some stupid point. And maybe get a nice fat lawsuit out of it too.

I wrote recently — about the shootings at the Texas army base — that it is the ambiguous and contradictory orders, the confused and deliberately confusing orders from the policymakers and bureaucrats, that force those attempting to execute their intentionally-baffling non-policies to err on the side of not rocking the boat and not getting fired.

I don’t see anything changing this. Even after 14 people were killed at that army base, it’s not going to change.

Thanks to rockhead.

He also links to the Canadian Free Press (notice how many stories they’ve been breaking recently?):

On November 17, an incident took place aboard AirTran Flight 297 scheduled to fly from Atlanta Hartsfield Airport to Houston that the media does not want to cover and everyone from the airline to the TSA and other government agencies want to keep very quiet. The reasons, I have been told, is fear of predatory lawsuits, negative publicity from accusations of religious profiling, and the obligatory subjugation to mindless mandatory Muslim sensitivity training that make a mockery of our American system of values. Interestingly, one airline official told me “we don’t want to become another flight 300,” which is a reference to a very similar scenario that took place aboard US Airways Flight 300 exactly three years ago.

I was first contacted about this incident two days after it happened by a passenger who was aboard AirTran Flight 297. Based on the allegations made by this passenger, we conducted additional research, interviews and investigation, all of which takes time to insure accuracy, and are now able to release our report of the incident that took place aboard that aircraft. Be prepared to be shocked, angered, and perhaps saddened by our national and corporate acquiescence to mafia-type tactics by Islamists who are engaged in a full frontal assault, and laughing about it.

It’s also hitting airline industry blogs.

  • http://billkrulgallery.com William Krul

    Did I miss something? Other than appearance what instilled fear in the passengers? The 10 spoke Arabic, laughed and???? Where’s the threat? Any help?

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  • Pat

    Did you read the original email/letter from Tedd Petruna? That’s the most detailed description I’ve seen.

  • Peter

    If they are Arabic they are likely Muslim. That means they read books & material thats instructs them to view non Muslims, infidels, as apes & pigs or meat in general they can kill in jihad to get a free pass to their version of Heaven. That’s a threat. Reference any of the 14,000+ Islamic terror attacks since 9/11 for example.

  • DaveR

    Will – you’re probably one of those that screamed the loudest about the Bush Administration not “connecting the dots” – when AFTER the fact, it was KNOWN that all the dots were there (also forgetting that Pres. Clinton made it ILLEGAL to connect those dots…).

    LIVES are MORE IMPORTANT that offending someone. If they don’t like the way things are run here in this country, they can go back to their own. (you also seem to keep forgetting that they want us DEAD…)

  • Jim Davis

    If, knowing what we know now about Muslim men, isn’t enough “help” for you to understand the threat, then you really do need some “HELP.”

    Please seek help immediately – before the terrorists help you with another terrorist attack.

  • John Branch

    Having read Tedd Petruna’s account plus some of the news reports, including an interview with another passenger that was published in an Atlanta newspaper, I have trouble telling exactly what happened and also have trouble concluding that the incident was a “dry run.” Dry run for what? I doubt that terrorists will try to take over a plane before it has left the ground; it’s simply an undesirable tactical situation compared to taking over a plane that’s in the air. But the situation in question was exactly that of a plane on the ground.

    A group of Middle Eastern men who don’t speak English, some of whom behave in an unruly way, isn’t the same thing as a threat.

  • Tonestaple

    I have to support the lawsuit theory. Lawsuits are horrible things and those at the receiving end, especially big corporations, are often eager to settle to make the whole thing go away. This would net these Arab turkeys some cash. Additionally, every time these Arab turkeys win something like this, like the flying imams in Minneapolis, the airlines become a little more reluctant to make Arabs/Muslims behave properly. Airlines hate to be sued, and nowadays no large corporation has any stomach at all for lawsuits which allege any kind of discrimination. The publicity is too awful for them and there are too many fools eager to believe any charge of racism just because a charge was made.

    The goal of this misbehavior is first to wear down our resistance until it once again becomes possible for them to take over planes in flight and, a distant second, to score some cash.

  • JakiChan

    Hey, guess what. It’s all a scam:

    http://www.ajc.com/business/airtran-hero-wasn-t-226517.html

    “But there was no way Petruna could have seen what he described on Flight 297, AirTran said in a statment. Petruna departed from Akron-Canton, Ohio, on AirTran Flight 205 on Nov. 17, officials said. He was supposed to connect to Flight 297 to head home to Houston, but he missed his first flight out of Ohio. And therefore, he missed the connecting flight.

    “Flight 297, the flight which Mr. Patruna allegedly wrote a first-hand account of, originally pushed back from its gate in Atlanta at 4:40 p.m. EST, a full 26 minutes before flight 205 arrived at the gate in Atlanta making this flight connection impossible,” according to AirTran.”

    So unclench those sphincters and let your bigotry go. It was a language problem, nothing more.

  • Adam

    lanquage barrier, don’t think so. I highly doubt these jerks weren’t all on their first plane ride and didn’t know the rules, half of which are put in pictures. They were messing around in a place they shouldn’t be, and all deserved a good beating at the very least. Instead, as described, they were likely playing the system fishing for a lawsuit or some other provocation.

  • O Bloody Hell

    > So unclench those sphincters and let your bigotry go. It was a language problem, nothing more.

    Yes, I’m fully trusting an organization that wants to sweep it under the rug to tell me the truth.

    The BEST data that this isn’t what it claims to be is the fact that Fox and someone like Beck haven’t jumped onto it, getting the whole host of substantial data that should exist — there have to be incident reports and depositions entered in the aftermath of it, which would, if not have the whole truth, would certainly show if it was serious or not.

    That they have not suggests that it is being blown out of proportion, and makes me question the veracity of some of the reports that make a big deal out of it.